>if you run a distro known for packaging ancient versions of software and want recent versions, that's on you
So what, am I not allowed to want the OS-level stability of Debian paired up with recent versions of my favorite stuff?
>you won't muck up your os with using your native package manager in its intended way
It'd be lovely if that were always the case. But I'm pretty sure there's always orphaned dependencies on my system every time I use the native package manager to uninstall something. (admittedly, though, this can happen with Flatpak too--though I prefer it there than in my distro packages)

