those other replies are not me. i only spoke of "dutch people" in the abstract. i didn't personalize it as an attack on you
myself i engage on where you are respectfully because i see no malice in your position but i do consider it to be unideal. perhaps i can convince you
the problem in our world today is:
the malicious depend upon us to have decorum, while they do not
it becomes an unfair balance that drives further malice
that's my message to you
no personal attack