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      <title type="html">📅 Original date posted:2018-05-30 📝 Original message:Hi ...</title>
    
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      In reply to &lt;a href=&#39;/nevent1qqs2r5erwcmwwwyl55jvdeq599cxu24eeael73cdzkpmthddfv0wapquhm9le&#39;&gt;nevent1q…m9le&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;_________________________&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;📅 Original date posted:2018-05-30&lt;br/&gt;📝 Original message:Hi Jim,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Yes please, could you share CSV? We are developing a Wallet that uses&lt;br/&gt;Golomb-Rice filters it would help a lot for determine the best P value&lt;br/&gt;depending on the estimated number of elements the client needs to watch.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;2018-05-29 19:38 GMT-03:00 Jim Posen via bitcoin-dev &amp;lt;&lt;br/&gt;bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&amp;gt;:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; This is a really cool finding, thanks Pieter!&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; I did some more analysis on selecting a good P value to reduce total data&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; downloaded considering both filters themselves and blocks in the case of&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; false positive matches, using data from mainnet. The quantity it minimizes&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; is:&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; filter_size(N, B) &#43; block_size * false_positive_probability(C, N, B)&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; N is the number of filter elements per block&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; B is the Golomb-Rice coding parameter&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; C is the number of filter elements watched by the client&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; The main result is that:&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; For C = 10, B = 13 is optimal&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; For C = 100, B = 16 is optimal&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; For C = 1,000, B = 20 is optimal&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; For C = 10,000, B = 23 is optimal&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; So any value of B in the range 16 to 20 seems reasonable, with M = 1.4971&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; * 2^B for optimal compression, as Pieter derived. The selection of the&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; parameter depends on the target number of elements that a client may watch.&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; I attached some of the results, and would be happy to share the CSV and&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; raw notebook if people are interested.&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 2:14 PM Gregory Maxwell via bitcoin-dev &amp;lt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&amp;gt; wrote:&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 6:42 PM, Gregory Maxwell &amp;lt;greg at xiph.org&amp;gt; wrote:&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; configuration is roughly right, then M=1569861 and rice parameter 19&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; should be used.&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; That should have been M=784931 B=19  ... paste error.&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; _______________________________________________&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; bitcoin-dev mailing list&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&#34;https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev&#34;&gt;https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; _______________________________________________&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; bitcoin-dev mailing list&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&#34;https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev&#34;&gt;https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;-------------- next part --------------&lt;br/&gt;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&lt;br/&gt;URL: &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20180530/e1679c4d/attachment.html&amp;gt&#34;&gt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20180530/e1679c4d/attachment.html&amp;gt&lt;/a&gt;;
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