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      <title type="html">📅 Original date posted:2015-06-14 📝 Original message:Jeff, ...</title>
    
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      In reply to &lt;a href=&#39;/nevent1qqsqw80mjsqcyetg8ugmlrz0fw80at364pk9y0q6n4vmpkzegzkgsngyyg7te&#39;&gt;nevent1q…g7te&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;_________________________&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;📅 Original date posted:2015-06-14&lt;br/&gt;📝 Original message:Jeff,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;with all due respect, but I&amp;#39;ve seen you saying this a few times&lt;br/&gt;now, that this decision is oh so difficult and important.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But this is not helpful. We all know that. Even I.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Make a suggestion, or stay out of the debate!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Mats&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;On 06/14/2015 07:36 AM, Jeff Garzik wrote:&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; The choice is very real and on-point.  What should the block size limit&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; be?  Why?&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; There is a large consensus that it needs increasing.  To what?  By what&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; factor?&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; The size limit literally defines the fee market, the whole damn thing.  If&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; software high priests choose a size limit of 300k, space is scarce, fees&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; are bid high.  If software high priests choose a size limit of 32mb, space&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; is plentiful, fees are near zero.  Market actors take their signals&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; accordingly.  Some business models boom, some business models fail, as a&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; direct result of changing this unintentionally-added speedbump.  Different&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; users value adoption, decentralization etc. differently.&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; The size limit is an economic policy lever that needs to be transitioned&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; -away- from software and software developers, to the free market.&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; A simple, e.g. hard fork to 2MB or 4MB does not fix higher level governance&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; problems associated with actors lobbying developers, even if a cloistered&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; and vetted Technical Advisory Board as has been proposed.&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 1:20 AM, Eric Lombrozo &amp;lt;elombrozo at gmail.com&amp;gt; wrote:&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I definitely think we need some voting system for metaconsensus…but if&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; we’re going to seriously consider this we should look at the problem much&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; more generally. Using false choices doesn’t really help, though ;)&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; - Eric Lombrozo&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; On Jun 13, 2015, at 10:13 PM, Jeff Garzik &amp;lt;jgarzik at bitpay.com&amp;gt; wrote:&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 1:08 AM, Eric Lombrozo &amp;lt;elombrozo at gmail.com&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; wrote:&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 2) BIP100 has direct economic consequences…and particularly for miners.&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; It lends itself to much greater corruptibility.&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; What is the alternative?  Have a Chief Scientist or Technical Advisory&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Board choose what is a proper fee, what is a proper level of&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; decentralization, a proper growth factor?&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; _______________________________________________&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; Bitcoin-development mailing list&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; Bitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.net&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&#34;https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development&#34;&gt;https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;
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