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      <title type="html">📅 Original date posted:2017-08-17 📝 Original message: Dear ...</title>
    
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      In reply to &lt;a href=&#39;/nevent1qqsd24dwhc3d9zw7nntqmcutw40lcguhdyrnldmm6gezsdejpj4zngsa50ta3&#39;&gt;nevent1q…0ta3&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;_________________________&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;📅 Original date posted:2017-08-17&lt;br/&gt;📝 Original message:&lt;br/&gt;Dear all,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;currently the chain_id allows to distinguish blockchains by the hash of&lt;br/&gt;their genesis block.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;With hardforks branching off of the Bitcoin blockchain, how can Lightning&lt;br/&gt;work on (or across)&lt;br/&gt;distinct, permanent forks of a parent blockchain that share the same&lt;br/&gt;genesis block?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I suppose changing the definition of chain_id to the hash of the first&lt;br/&gt;block of the new&lt;br/&gt;branch and requiring replay and wipe-out protection should be sufficient.&lt;br/&gt;But can we&lt;br/&gt;relax these requirements? Are slow block times an issue? Can we use&lt;br/&gt;Lightning to transact&lt;br/&gt;on &amp;#34;almost frozen&amp;#34; block chains suffering from a sudden loss of hashpower?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Has there been any previous discussion or study of Lightning in the setting&lt;br/&gt;of hardforks?&lt;br/&gt;(Is this the right place to discuss this? If not, where would be the right&lt;br/&gt;place?)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;thanks,&lt;br/&gt;Martin&lt;br/&gt;-------------- next part --------------&lt;br/&gt;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&lt;br/&gt;URL: &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/lightning-dev/attachments/20170817/6f4f0ddc/attachment.html&amp;gt&#34;&gt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/lightning-dev/attachments/20170817/6f4f0ddc/attachment.html&amp;gt&lt;/a&gt;;
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      <title type="html">📅 Original date posted:2017-08-17 📝 Original message: Dear ...</title>
    
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      In reply to &lt;a href=&#39;/nevent1qqsy8gv9804nyxm3j3jl5km9hgzhp4tmln8kcsd94gkhslc3ql7xpwqhn84xz&#39;&gt;nevent1q…84xz&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;_________________________&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;📅 Original date posted:2017-08-17&lt;br/&gt;📝 Original message:&lt;br/&gt;Dear all,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;currently the chain_id allows to distinguish blockchains by the hash of&lt;br/&gt;their genesis block.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;With hardforks branching off of the Bitcoin blockchain, how can Lightning&lt;br/&gt;work on (or across)&lt;br/&gt;distinct, permanent forks of a parent blockchain that share the same&lt;br/&gt;genesis block?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I suppose changing the definition of chain_id to the hash of the first&lt;br/&gt;block of the new&lt;br/&gt;branch and requiring replay and wipe-out protection should be sufficient.&lt;br/&gt;But can we&lt;br/&gt;relax these requirements? Are slow block times an issue? Can we use&lt;br/&gt;Lightning to transact&lt;br/&gt;on &amp;#34;almost frozen&amp;#34; block chains suffering from a sudden loss of hashpower?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Has there been any previous discussion or study of Lightning in the setting&lt;br/&gt;of hardforks?&lt;br/&gt;(Is this the right place to discuss this? If not, where would be the right&lt;br/&gt;place?)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;thanks,&lt;br/&gt;Martin&lt;br/&gt;-------------- next part --------------&lt;br/&gt;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&lt;br/&gt;URL: &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/lightning-dev/attachments/20170817/a68ca5d6/attachment.html&amp;gt&#34;&gt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/lightning-dev/attachments/20170817/a68ca5d6/attachment.html&amp;gt&lt;/a&gt;;
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      <title type="html">📅 Original date posted:2015-06-22 📝 Original message:Gavin, ...</title>
    
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      In reply to &lt;a href=&#39;/nevent1qqsqk5ckrarz5yhjuykqavn8c8sn7jkdze3z04jluwswhy7ms2q2wpqu2pjmv&#39;&gt;nevent1q…pjmv&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;_________________________&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;📅 Original date posted:2015-06-22&lt;br/&gt;📝 Original message:Gavin,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;in 2022 your proposal (BIP as well as code) crosses the 32MB maximum&lt;br/&gt;message size limit. In order to avoid deployment of code that deterministically&lt;br/&gt;fails fatally in 2022, I&amp;#39;d propose to stop the doublings at 32MB for now and fix&lt;br/&gt;the message size limit in the mean time. Since the message size fix requires&lt;br/&gt;a 2nd hard fork anyway, your current 8GB limit could be re-instateted in that&lt;br/&gt;2nd fork as well. Even if you disagree, I&amp;#39;d suggest to address the topic in the BIP.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;best regards,&lt;br/&gt;Martin
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