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I worked with a guy in the 2010s that was really into that. He ...

2026-05-19T04:22:48Z

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I worked with a guy in the 2010s that was really into that. He was ahead of his time @ironee212 @jeremiah @noyoushutthefuckupdad

yeah @ironee212 had one of those way back in the day, i think it ...

2026-05-19T04:20:08Z

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yeah @ironee212 had one of those way back in the day, i think it was a called a Zen? Meanwhile around the same time I had a Zune lol

@noyoushutthefuckupdad

I decided to open it now Looking good! A lot heavier than I ...

2026-05-19T04:00:09Z

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I decided to open it now

Looking good! A lot heavier than I expected

for real tho what where they thinking! ...

2026-05-16T06:58:48Z

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for real tho what where they thinking!

If I was a college professor with a student of culture id ...

2026-04-01T02:32:55Z

If I was a college professor with a student of culture id probably do this too lmao

Bakugan Dragonoid is such a unique and really specific name for a ...

2026-03-22T03:10:51Z

Bakugan Dragonoid is such a unique and really specific name for a Monster Truck. Give 'em his own TV show or something at this point lol

These Devs were really like :brain1: What if we did Frutiger ...

2026-03-08T08:20:38Z

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These Devs were really like

:brain1: What if we did Frutiger Metro but with fewer colours and only straight lines

:cacopalm:

Fe₂🦀₃⋅H₂🦀 (npub10jm…vfjz)

maybe the menu was fine before but they rushed to make it all ...

2026-03-07T23:07:49Z

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maybe the menu was fine before but they rushed to make it all ugly after this happened --> https://x.com/4nt1r34l/status/1923067988871147605?s=20 among other "fixes"

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I haven't played very many extraction shooters but I'm ...

2026-03-07T22:29:50Z

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I haven't played very many extraction shooters but I'm not really sure this is the kind of game that should have wipes like that

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event if you git gud at Marathon they're just going to reset ...

2026-03-07T22:25:07Z

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event if you git gud at Marathon they're just going to reset you when the next season starts. There's no permanent progression if I'm reading this right.

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huge missed opportunity in making the player characters ugly. ...

2026-03-07T22:23:58Z

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huge missed opportunity in making the player characters ugly. They should have leaned into it

that's the appropriate reaction for that thing lol I recently ...

2026-03-07T22:23:11Z

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that's the appropriate reaction for that thing lol

I recently started pocketing my hacked PS Vita on my work commute because it's a whole goddamn ritual to get my steam deck out of my backpack when I'm on public transit and elbow-to-elbow with a crowd.

you're probably right, but some people are stubborn and if ...

2026-03-07T22:20:44Z

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you're probably right, but some people are stubborn and if they got attached to Marathon first they might not have given Arc Raiders a shot is what I'm thinking. There's also a lot of word-of-mouth both games depend on. If I'm going to play either of these games, it'll be the one my friends are already playing (so never Marathon)

how is the Ayn Thor? It looks so portable. Must be a dream on any ...

2026-03-07T21:24:59Z

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how is the Ayn Thor?

It looks so portable. Must be a dream on any work commute.

Honestly if Arc Raiders didn't exist Sony's new Marathon ...

2026-03-07T21:22:39Z

Honestly if Arc Raiders didn't exist Sony's new Marathon game would have the same chokehold on the Tarkov audience. They must be so mad they didn't release it sooner. They didn't spend all this money to be the #2 game in the genre lol

Playing missions on Cyberstan in Helldivers 2 be like ...

2026-02-23T03:10:49Z

Playing missions on Cyberstan in Helldivers 2 be like

i didn't even notice that what happens when you click on it?

2026-02-22T00:05:45Z

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i didn't even notice that what happens when you click on it?

Yeah no I wouldn't comply with this ...

2026-02-21T23:56:14Z

Yeah no I wouldn't comply with this https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/SB26-051

Colorado legislators have drafted a bill that would require your operating system to age verify you and store it in a way that applications can query.

there's one other open source one called osium or something ...

2026-02-21T06:57:53Z

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there's one other open source one called osium or something I'm not certain of the spelling. Might be good

When Valour dropped screenshare and video today the devs jumped in a voice call on their "main" meta chatroom and talked about it. Someone mentioned talking to the osium guy 1:1, nice dude but his app wasn't as interesting as Valour. Haven't tried it myself though. Was an honest testimony i'm sure

Technically you can self host Fluxer, Stoat, and Valour. I ...

2026-02-21T06:53:54Z

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Technically you can self host Fluxer, Stoat, and Valour. I haven't looked into how clear the Fluxer documentation is but the app itself is just a pure discord clone, it feels soulless and lacks ambition.

Stoat in 2021 (named Revolt) looked just like how Fluxer does now. The Stoat devs give me a bad vibe though, really emitting that Bluesky attitude. Nothing stopping you from hosting their thing yourself though, but the documentation is like a one-pager that seems to be intentionally unclear.

Meanwhile Valour is self hostable but they haven't written any docs for it yet, but the devs are actually trustworthy and I am confident they'll do it eventually. Of the three Valour is the most fun to use because it's not trying to clone discord at all. It has all the important features but it's got it's own identity. It is the opposite of soulless.

also releasing iOS apps is a painful process, so these foss ...

2026-02-21T04:23:14Z

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also releasing iOS apps is a painful process, so these foss alternatives are forever behind. Only Stoat so far has a beta app but Stoat is the worst of the three!

Q.U.I.N.N. (npub1rs8…na04)

i'm not sure xmpp will ever be simple enough for normies

2026-02-21T04:20:12Z

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i'm not sure xmpp will ever be simple enough for normies

Finally some good news in the FOSS-Discord-replacement-space ...

2026-02-21T04:08:42Z

Finally some good news in the FOSS-Discord-replacement-space

Valour has video and screenshare.

The other two decent FOSS options don't have this (Stoat and Fluxer)

https://x.com/ValourApp/status/2025056157107093981

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I got one for my son for Christmas since he really liked his Switch1, and it does a good job making the most of our physical cart collection,

But holy shit the selection of new games that are actually on the cartridge is BLEAK. I've abandoned my plans to get my own switch 2 and collect more carts outside of what my son wants to play.

Once steam deck oleds are back in stock I'm gonna buy one for myself and give him my old LCD model deck

I thought I remember reading somewhere it was meant to be a perk ...

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I thought I remember reading somewhere it was meant to be a perk of their online subscription, guess they want more money

This upgrade should be free :AngeryCat: #note19ax…5ksg

2026-02-19T15:00:23Z

This upgrade should be free :AngeryCat:
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and also to you!!

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and also to you!!

But can we get it to 24? :snakesmug:

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But can we get it to 24? :snakesmug:

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2026-02-19T04:34:58Z

It's my birthday :kojimasmug4:

they all broke in the same way I think it's something to do ...

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they all broke in the same way I think it's something to do with the booru Nierbot (npub1yq6…h4m6)

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I suspect the gelbooru python library I was using is getting some new and terrible response and my bot is just posting it anyway

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I'll check on it probably this weekend @npub1ufu…jseq ...

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I'll check on it probably this weekend FormidableBot (npub1ufu…jseq) Dielan (SPW is down plz follow me) (npub1uzw…0lam)

stoat might be cooked actually. Looks like their main instance ...

2026-02-11T06:34:18Z

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stoat might be cooked actually. Looks like their main instance had it's db fall over due to a sign-up flood, so if you sign up you might not get the email lol

Also, their social media presence is only on Bluesky and they rarely post. I think they are shooting themselves in the foot.

I was checking out valour.gg tonight and I like what I see, might be a better fit. Similar pros and cons as stoat

I'm looking forward to watching it :cacolaugh:

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I'm looking forward to watching it :cacolaugh:

this thing is CRIMINAL lol She finally got through it lol ...

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this thing is CRIMINAL lol

She finally got through it lol

I've been watching @ironee212 play SM Sunshine and I am ...

2026-02-11T06:21:24Z

I've been watching @ironee212 play SM Sunshine and I am pretty sure she's been teleported straight to hell

What is this level :cacocringe:

I remember Tox! I wanted it to work out so badly

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I remember Tox! I wanted it to work out so badly

her phone got bricked this wasn't really an option at the ...

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her phone got bricked this wasn't really an option at the time

I got really motivated last night and wrote all this in one ...

2026-02-10T18:52:44Z

I got really motivated last night and wrote all this in one sitting :cacolaugh:

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Welp

[On February 9th, 2026 Discord announced to the world that it's facial recognition and ID tracking implemented to comply with UK law was coming to global in March.](https://discord.com/press-releases/discord-launches-teen-by-default-settings-globally ) (captured 2/9: https://archive.is/nARng)

In this announcement there's a few things that matter:

" alt=" ">
Discord is implementing a teen-by-default approach, and will effectively “card” anybody their AI models can't figure out is an adult or not. https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/13/tech/youtube-ai-age-verification">Similar to YouTube

" alt=" ">
Discord claims your verification selfies won't leave your device, but your government ID images will. https://cybersecuritynews.com/discord-data-breach-sensitive-data/">We all remember how well that went in the UK.

Typically you would expect a company like Discord to learn from it's mistakes after a blunder like that, and they probably have a totally different verification partner lined up to handle the global roll out. However this assumption does not consider the fact that Discord nearly has a monopoly on internet chat. It's not a true monopoly given there are alternatives (we will get to those shortly), but it has a ton of users who are all in deep with Discord and likely won't migrate until things are even more dire. Even if some of the alternatives I mention below seem like the perfect fit for you and your community – if you are the only one that moves, you'll just become unhappy and move back. It's exactly this line of thinking that keeps Twitter alive today. Right now Discord has no real need to get this right, but so long as their servers are still up and Discord is still the easiest platform to get your gamer friends together on it will remain on top. Discord's executives know this, and we have speculated for a long time that Discord is not profitable and running out of VC money.

**Once the bill comes due, what are they going to sell to make payroll? Your data!**

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Dielan why are you effortposting this?

Great question! I've been looking into Discord alternatives for a long time hoping to move this community off of Discord, which we joined in 2015. Back in 2015 Discord was a breath of fresh air, and we had recently made a rocky transition from Teamspeak 3 to Mumble during the height of Warframe 8 player raids. We only moved because the Teamspeak server physically died and I didn't want to go through the trouble of getting another TS3 license. Mumble is free and open source and honestly just as good as TS3 ever was. However it was too confusing for the average gamer to use private-key/public-key authentication. People in IT are rolling their eyes reading this but it's true. Gamers see they have to save a file to prove who they are instead of a password and get lost. Discord in 2015 was the obvious choice.

As for why I'm writing this right now, I'm just taking advantage of the current Discord hate online to get attention. If I wrote this when the UK ID scanning first rolled out nobody would have read it.

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So you want to try a Discord alternative?

Just referring to these programs as “Discord alternatives” is actually harmful to the cause. Discord does a lot of things wrong, but every alternative to is going to be compared on features, and if even one is missing it could be justification for your one stubborn friend to ruin your entire community migration plan. Before you dive down this rabbit hole you need to accept that these are chat programs, voice chat programs, community platforms, and so on. Some will do things Discord either doesn't do or does poorly, and some will only miss the mark by a feature or two but otherwise be way better. Normally competition is very good and ships good features fast, but since Discord users are so stubborn these other platforms have only a fraction of the population. Nothing is going to be a good fit right away, but if we never leave Discord will just keep exploiting its users.

Since not a single one of these options today can go feature-for-feature (some are really close) I'm not going to compare them like that or try to give them some kind of score. Instead I will describe the app, and give you **pros and cons**. Your community's most stubborn member is going to complain at the first deal breaker they see, so let's just list those out to keep it simple.

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Steam Group Chat

Pros:

Everyone you know already has it

Steam rich presence

You can drop game invites or watch/streaming invites in chat

Chat persists, but does not persist forever

Comes with a Forum (put persistent text in there), Event Calendar, and announcement system that uses steam notifications

Works great on Steam Deck/other handhelds

Cons:

Can only stream your game if it's a steam game or running via steam launcher

Can't share desktop

No webcam/video

Mobile app sucks

No encryption

I'm putting Steam first in the list because it's surprisingly the most obvious choice to me. Of all the options in this post, all of your friends have this installed already. Just make a group, make a chatroom, and set up a forum. This gives you all in one community management. Some menus are simple and easier than discord, some aren't. If Valve saw some metrics showing a ton of people suddenly using chat I bet they'd put more effort in it. I think the mobile app is the only thing really holding Steam back from taking social capital away from Discord even before all this ID business went down. Beware though, if Discord is the primary way you send people private messages on your phone this one isn't for you.

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Stoat (formerly Revolt)

Pros

Actually looks like Discord

https://github.com/stoatchat/self-hosted">Can be self-hosted

Completely https://github.com/stoatchat">open-source

You can make a “server” discord-style on the Stoat developers default instance without actually hosting your own infrastructure

Funded by donations

Cons

Does not federate

not encrypted (at least, not E2EE)

Screenshare and webcam support are planned, but not yet implemented

Stoat was [originally called Revolt chat](https://stoat.chat/updates/long-live-stoat ) a few years back, [4 years back to be exact looking at my lobste.rs post breaking the news of it's existence](https://lobste.rs/s/9tlgop/revolt_new_foss_self_hostable_discord ). If I recall Revolt was originally a Discord clone project put together by some motivated college students, now all these years later they are still working on it for donation money. This is a model that can work long term without any fear they will sell people's data. Even if they did try that, the only data they would have to sell in the first place would be that of the users on the default server. Any self hosted instances would be under the control of whoever set it up, which is a good thing.

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Teamspeak 6

Pros

https://www.teamspeak.com/en/features/overview/">Aiming for actual feature parity when it's fully released

Can be self-hosted

Cons

Antiquated licensing structure (not open-source)

Current “discord-style” server options on main teamspeak instance https://support.teamspeak.com/hc/en-us/articles/26033099878045-Current-Community-Options">limited to a small number of people, and not free

When self-hosting, your server capacity is limited by https://support.teamspeak.com/hc/en-us/articles/26033788383261-What-licenses-are-available">the license you purchased, which must be renewed every six months or yearly

I wish I could write more nice things about TS6 but I can't. Our community happily used TS3 for years. When we first migrated from a public server to our own we used a free license which had some kind of stipulation that we were a non-profit or something, I don't remember. Here we are in 2026 and TS is still charging big money for self hosted licenses, and there's no free license loophole like we once took advantage of for TS3. I know they have to pay the bills, and I can tell from their forums that active development is taking place but I would rather donate to the college kids that made Stoat than pay for this.

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Matrix

Pros

Self-hostable & federated

optional encryption

Multiple, competing mobile apps to connect to your account

Discord-like default server to make an account on if you don't want to look around

Supports persistent text chat, video calls, and screensharing

Matrix protocol designed to be an all-encompassing ecosystem

Cons

Project is mismanaged (lots of donation money, limited tangible improvement over time)

Competing mobile and desktop apps can have different features and be confusing to newcomers

administrating your own instance is a nightmare

No rich presence, really no gaming-centric features at all

Let's not waste your time. Your gamer friends aren't joining this one. Matrix is simply too difficult to learn, use, and administer. It's community features are not sufficient to really replace discord. Individual chat channels are feature rich, but a community typically needs a collection of topic'd chats to organize discussion and matrix's solution for this just isn't good enough.

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XMPP

Pros

Easy to set up

federated

Optional features can be easily added to apps and servers (these are called https://xmpp.org/extensions/#the-whole-list">XEPs )

Can be encrypted

Supports voice, video, and group chats

Cons

OMEMO encryption (more like oMEME) is known to mess up your chats, potentially rendering months or years of chat history un-readable

An XMPP-based gamer's paradise is possible, but nobody is packaging XMPP server software with this kind of experience out of the box. Your community needs a motivated administrator to even attempt to pull this off, and you'll be on the hook for tech support for every minor problem

This option has so much complexity even though it is federated you might not capture much of the Discord user base to even chat with

I actually really like XMPP. It's a flexible & extensible standard that if all the open source donation money (which mostly goes to Matrix it seems) would have gone to XMPP instead we might have a whole ecosystem of federated chat platforms that mimic the Discord experience. Unfortunately we don't live in that alternative universe.

For a few years my lovely wife Ironeeeeee212 (npub165n…jszj) and I used XMPP, specifically [Conversations for Android](https://conversations.im/ ) as our primary texting app. One broken phone later and our chat history became totally one sided (only I could read it) and we migrated our daily text messaging to SimpleX.

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Mumble

Pros

'ol reliable

Feature parity with Teamspeak 3, which many people used before jumping to Discord

Audio link and broadcast controls, ideal for MMO raiding (Discord can't do this)

Easy to set up the server

self-host only and open source with no arbitrary limits on how many users can join

Can record channel audio

Cons

No persistent text chat, you only see what you are present for

No rich text chat

Difficult to set up the client, key-based auth is confusing

No video, no screenshare

We currently have a Mumble server set up to record our podcast and it does that job better than any other option on this list. However Mumble's only claim to fame is audio. If you just need to talk, this option works. We have our server configured with a few open rooms as a backup if Discord were to ever suddenly break, and we set it up before we discovered how good Steam chat has become. We can recommend if you have a spare server laying around you should put mumble server on it and see for yourself. It's lightweight and simple.

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Here are some quick honorable (and dishonorable) mentions

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Federated Pipe Dreams

[Flotilla](https://app.flotilla.social/discover ) – This is a discord clone that uses the Nostr protocol under the hood to work. It's still in development but you can try it out now by either self hosting, or paying somebody like [coracle.social](https://hosting.coracle.social/ ) 10k sats a month to host it for you. 10k sats isn't that much money, but it ain't free. Also not everybody sees the art and simplicity of using a public/private key pair to sign in to a website (see my words on Mumble above). Gamers just aren't ready for that.

[Roomy](https://roomy.space/home ) – This is more of a Twitter Spaces competitor than a Discord competitor, but it uses the AT protocol under the hood to work. That normally would mean it's decentralized but what it really means is you need a centralized [Bluesky account](https://net-run.npub.pro/post/why-bluesky-will-probably-never-be-it-0g5qgp/ ), which requires giving the Bluesky company your cell phone number. [Yikes](https://sethgoldstein.me/bluesky-is-not-decentralized-and-thats-an-issue-and-will-continue-to-be-one/ ).

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Meme Tier

[Xf1re](https://xf1re.com/ ) – The youth won't understand this one, maybe that's why it's good though?

Going back to IRC – We are NOT going back to IRC

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Not even competing Tier

[SimpleX](https://simplex.chat/ ) – I have my SimpleX contact info [on my SPW pinned post](https://shitposter.world/dielan ) but as of today I only use it to talk to Ironeeeeee212 (npub165n…jszj) everyday, and rare messages from my fedi mutuals. It's a great app that does have group chats and a desktop app, but it isn't ready to drive communities like Discord does. It's too basic.

[Telegram](https://telegram.org/ ) – I only ever hear about Telegram being used to do crime on the internet, is this obviously not the alternative we want. [Isn't the CEO in prison or something?](https://apnews.com/article/telegram-pavel-durov-arrest-2c8015c102cce23c23d55c6ca82641c5 )

[Ventrillo](http://www.ventrilo.com/ ) – Have you seen their website? Looks like it hasn't been updated since 2005.

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Corpo Tier

[Rocket.chat](https://www.rocket.chat/ )

[Mattermost](https://mattermost.com/ )

[Zulip](https://zulip.com/ )

Don't let anybody tell you any of these are presentable to your gaming community. If you've ever worked a corpo job you know exactly what pieces of software these are competing with, and it's not Discord.

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THANK YOU FOR READING MY BLOGPOST

I actually posted a first draft of this blog on [melonmancy cafe](https://melonmancy.cafe/d/152-the-absolute-state-of-discord-alternatives-in-2026 ) our community's public forum proudly running the latest version of [Flarum](https://flarum.org/ ). Please consider signing up! I wrote this with the intention to share it widely so if you've never heard of the [Melonmancy Podcast](https://melonmancy.net/about-us ), or the [Fediverse](https://pleroma.social/blog/2021/01/13/the-big-pleroma-and-fediverse-faq/ ) give those last two hyperlinks a click.

The images were in BBcode format when I posted it :cacocry: ...

2026-02-10T08:34:05Z

The images were in BBcode format when I posted it :cacocry: :cacocry: :cacocry:

I fixed them but I can't fix the write.as fedipost it makes on first publish lol

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Welp

[On February 9th, 2026 Discord announced to the world that it's facial recognition and ID tracking implemented to comply with UK law was coming to global in March.](https://discord.com/press-releases/discord-launches-teen-by-default-settings-globally ) (captured 2/9: https://archive.is/nARng)

In this announcement there's a few things that matter:

" alt=" ">
Discord is implementing a teen-by-default approach, and will effectively “card” anybody their AI models can't figure out is an adult or not. https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/13/tech/youtube-ai-age-verification">Similar to YouTube

" alt=" ">
Discord claims your verification selfies won't leave your device, but your government ID images will. https://cybersecuritynews.com/discord-data-breach-sensitive-data/">We all remember how well that went in the UK.

Typically you would expect a company like Discord to learn from it's mistakes after a blunder like that, and they probably have a totally different verification partner lined up to handle the global roll out. However this assumption does not consider the fact that Discord nearly has a monopoly on internet chat. It's not a true monopoly given there are alternatives (we will get to those shortly), but it has a ton of users who are all in deep with Discord and likely won't migrate until things are even more dire. Even if some of the alternatives I mention below seem like the perfect fit for you and your community – if you are the only one that moves, you'll just become unhappy and move back. It's exactly this line of thinking that keeps Twitter alive today. Right now Discord has no real need to get this right, but so long as their servers are still up and Discord is still the easiest platform to get your gamer friends together on it will remain on top. Discord's executives know this, and we have speculated for a long time that Discord is not profitable and running out of VC money.

**Once the bill comes due, what are they going to sell to make payroll? Your data!**

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Dielan why are you effortposting this?

Great question! I've been looking into Discord alternatives for a long time hoping to move this community off of Discord, which we joined in 2015. Back in 2015 Discord was a breath of fresh air, and we had recently made a rocky transition from Teamspeak 3 to Mumble during the height of Warframe 8 player raids. We only moved because the Teamspeak server physically died and I didn't want to go through the trouble of getting another TS3 license. Mumble is free and open source and honestly just as good as TS3 ever was. However it was too confusing for the average gamer to use private-key/public-key authentication. People in IT are rolling their eyes reading this but it's true. Gamers see they have to save a file to prove who they are instead of a password and get lost. Discord in 2015 was the obvious choice.

As for why I'm writing this right now, I'm just taking advantage of the current Discord hate online to get attention. If I wrote this when the UK ID scanning first rolled out nobody would have read it.

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So you want to try a Discord alternative?

Just referring to these programs as “Discord alternatives” is actually harmful to the cause. Discord does a lot of things wrong, but every alternative to is going to be compared on features, and if even one is missing it could be justification for your one stubborn friend to ruin your entire community migration plan. Before you dive down this rabbit hole you need to accept that these are chat programs, voice chat programs, community platforms, and so on. Some will do things Discord either doesn't do or does poorly, and some will only miss the mark by a feature or two but otherwise be way better. Normally competition is very good and ships good features fast, but since Discord users are so stubborn these other platforms have only a fraction of the population. Nothing is going to be a good fit right away, but if we never leave Discord will just keep exploiting its users.

Since not a single one of these options today can go feature-for-feature (some are really close) I'm not going to compare them like that or try to give them some kind of score. Instead I will describe the app, and give you **pros and cons**. Your community's most stubborn member is going to complain at the first deal breaker they see, so let's just list those out to keep it simple.

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Steam Group Chat

Pros:

Everyone you know already has it

Steam rich presence

You can drop game invites or watch/streaming invites in chat

Chat persists, but does not persist forever

Comes with a Forum (put persistent text in there), Event Calendar, and announcement system that uses steam notifications

Works great on Steam Deck/other handhelds

Cons:

Can only stream your game if it's a steam game or running via steam launcher

Can't share desktop

No webcam/video

Mobile app sucks

No encryption

I'm putting Steam first in the list because it's surprisingly the most obvious choice to me. Of all the options in this post, all of your friends have this installed already. Just make a group, make a chatroom, and set up a forum. This gives you all in one community management. Some menus are simple and easier than discord, some aren't. If Valve saw some metrics showing a ton of people suddenly using chat I bet they'd put more effort in it. I think the mobile app is the only thing really holding Steam back from taking social capital away from Discord even before all this ID business went down. Beware though, if Discord is the primary way you send people private messages on your phone this one isn't for you.

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Stoat (formerly Revolt)

Pros

Actually looks like Discord

https://github.com/stoatchat/self-hosted">Can be self-hosted

Completely https://github.com/stoatchat">open-source

You can make a “server” discord-style on the Stoat developers default instance without actually hosting your own infrastructure

Funded by donations

Cons

Does not federate

not encrypted (at least, not E2EE)

Screenshare and webcam support are planned, but not yet implemented

Stoat was [originally called Revolt chat](https://stoat.chat/updates/long-live-stoat ) a few years back, [4 years back to be exact looking at my lobste.rs post breaking the news of it's existence](https://lobste.rs/s/9tlgop/revolt_new_foss_self_hostable_discord ). If I recall Revolt was originally a Discord clone project put together by some motivated college students, now all these years later they are still working on it for donation money. This is a model that can work long term without any fear they will sell people's data. Even if they did try that, the only data they would have to sell in the first place would be that of the users on the default server. Any self hosted instances would be under the control of whoever set it up, which is a good thing.

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Teamspeak 6

Pros

https://www.teamspeak.com/en/features/overview/">Aiming for actual feature parity when it's fully released

Can be self-hosted

Cons

Antiquated licensing structure (not open-source)

Current “discord-style” server options on main teamspeak instance https://support.teamspeak.com/hc/en-us/articles/26033099878045-Current-Community-Options">limited to a small number of people, and not free

When self-hosting, your server capacity is limited by https://support.teamspeak.com/hc/en-us/articles/26033788383261-What-licenses-are-available">the license you purchased, which must be renewed every six months or yearly

I wish I could write more nice things about TS6 but I can't. Our community happily used TS3 for years. When we first migrated from a public server to our own we used a free license which had some kind of stipulation that we were a non-profit or something, I don't remember. Here we are in 2026 and TS is still charging big money for self hosted licenses, and there's no free license loophole like we once took advantage of for TS3. I know they have to pay the bills, and I can tell from their forums that active development is taking place but I would rather donate to the college kids that made Stoat than pay for this.

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Matrix

Pros

Self-hostable & federated

optional encryption

Multiple, competing mobile apps to connect to your account

Discord-like default server to make an account on if you don't want to look around

Supports persistent text chat, video calls, and screensharing

Matrix protocol designed to be an all-encompassing ecosystem

Cons

Project is mismanaged (lots of donation money, limited tangible improvement over time)

Competing mobile and desktop apps can have different features and be confusing to newcomers

administrating your own instance is a nightmare

No rich presence, really no gaming-centric features at all

Let's not waste your time. Your gamer friends aren't joining this one. Matrix is simply too difficult to learn, use, and administer. It's community features are not sufficient to really replace discord. Individual chat channels are feature rich, but a community typically needs a collection of topic'd chats to organize discussion and matrix's solution for this just isn't good enough.

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XMPP

Pros

Easy to set up

federated

Optional features can be easily added to apps and servers (these are called https://xmpp.org/extensions/#the-whole-list">XEPs )

Can be encrypted

Supports voice, video, and group chats

Cons

OMEMO encryption (more like oMEME) is known to mess up your chats, potentially rendering months or years of chat history un-readable

An XMPP-based gamer's paradise is possible, but nobody is packaging XMPP server software with this kind of experience out of the box. Your community needs a motivated administrator to even attempt to pull this off, and you'll be on the hook for tech support for every minor problem

This option has so much complexity even though it is federated you might not capture much of the Discord user base to even chat with

I actually really like XMPP. It's a flexible & extensible standard that if all the open source donation money (which mostly goes to Matrix it seems) would have gone to XMPP instead we might have a whole ecosystem of federated chat platforms that mimic the Discord experience. Unfortunately we don't live in that alternative universe.

For a few years my lovely wife Ironeeeeee212 (npub165n…jszj) and I used XMPP, specifically [Conversations for Android](https://conversations.im/ ) as our primary texting app. One broken phone later and our chat history became totally one sided (only I could read it) and we migrated our daily text messaging to SimpleX.

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Mumble

Pros

'ol reliable

Feature parity with Teamspeak 3, which many people used before jumping to Discord

Audio link and broadcast controls, ideal for MMO raiding (Discord can't do this)

Easy to set up the server

self-host only and open source with no arbitrary limits on how many users can join

Can record channel audio

Cons

No persistent text chat, you only see what you are present for

No rich text chat

Difficult to set up the client, key-based auth is confusing

No video, no screenshare

We currently have a Mumble server set up to record our podcast and it does that job better than any other option on this list. However Mumble's only claim to fame is audio. If you just need to talk, this option works. We have our server configured with a few open rooms as a backup if Discord were to ever suddenly break, and we set it up before we discovered how good Steam chat has become. We can recommend if you have a spare server laying around you should put mumble server on it and see for yourself. It's lightweight and simple.

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Here are some quick honorable (and dishonorable) mentions

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Federated Pipe Dreams

[Flotilla](https://app.flotilla.social/discover ) – This is a discord clone that uses the Nostr protocol under the hood to work. It's still in development but you can try it out now by either self hosting, or paying somebody like [coracle.social](https://hosting.coracle.social/ ) 10k sats a month to host it for you. 10k sats isn't that much money, but it ain't free. Also not everybody sees the art and simplicity of using a public/private key pair to sign in to a website (see my words on Mumble above). Gamers just aren't ready for that.

[Roomy](https://roomy.space/home ) – This is more of a Twitter Spaces competitor than a Discord competitor, but it uses the AT protocol under the hood to work. That normally would mean it's decentralized but what it really means is you need a centralized [Bluesky account](https://net-run.npub.pro/post/why-bluesky-will-probably-never-be-it-0g5qgp/ ), which requires giving the Bluesky company your cell phone number. [Yikes](https://sethgoldstein.me/bluesky-is-not-decentralized-and-thats-an-issue-and-will-continue-to-be-one/ ).

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Meme Tier

[Xf1re](https://xf1re.com/ ) – The youth won't understand this one, maybe that's why it's good though?

Going back to IRC – We are NOT going back to IRC

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Not even competing Tier

[SimpleX](https://simplex.chat/ ) – I have my SimpleX contact info [on my SPW pinned post](https://shitposter.world/dielan ) but as of today I only use it to talk to Ironeeeeee212 (npub165n…jszj) everyday, and rare messages from my fedi mutuals. It's a great app that does have group chats and a desktop app, but it isn't ready to drive communities like Discord does. It's too basic.

[Telegram](https://telegram.org/ ) – I only ever hear about Telegram being used to do crime on the internet, is this obviously not the alternative we want. [Isn't the CEO in prison or something?](https://apnews.com/article/telegram-pavel-durov-arrest-2c8015c102cce23c23d55c6ca82641c5 )

[Ventrillo](http://www.ventrilo.com/ ) – Have you seen their website? Looks like it hasn't been updated since 2005.

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Corpo Tier

[Rocket.chat](https://www.rocket.chat/ )

[Mattermost](https://mattermost.com/ )

[Zulip](https://zulip.com/ )

Don't let anybody tell you any of these are presentable to your gaming community. If you've ever worked a corpo job you know exactly what pieces of software these are competing with, and it's not Discord.

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THANK YOU FOR READING MY BLOGPOST

I actually posted a first draft of this blog on [melonmancy cafe](https://melonmancy.cafe/d/152-the-absolute-state-of-discord-alternatives-in-2026 ) our community's public forum proudly running the latest version of [Flarum](https://flarum.org/ ). Please consider signing up! I wrote this with the intention to share it widely so if you've never heard of the [Melonmancy Podcast](https://melonmancy.net/about-us ), or the [Fediverse](https://pleroma.social/blog/2021/01/13/the-big-pleroma-and-fediverse-faq/ ) give those last two hyperlinks a click.

Do the people working there even like anime?? @npub1rzc…kyw4

2026-02-08T19:47:54Z

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Do the people working there even like anime?? :5492_EzPepe: XaetaCore :linux: (npub1rzc…kyw4)

no snout no problem, big E was clearly a FREAK who was all in on ...

2026-02-07T19:48:46Z

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no snout no problem, big E was clearly a FREAK who was all in on FNAF

bro was a man of culture

2026-02-07T19:46:58Z

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bro was a man of culture

the door to the cage is open, all you need to do is walk through ...

2026-02-07T19:30:54Z

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the door to the cage is open, all you need to do is walk through it

Let the normies rot in adware hell

what is it this time

2026-02-07T19:18:55Z

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what is it this time

TETO MENTIONED ...

2026-02-07T19:17:39Z

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TETO MENTIONED

:acat_bop: :acat_bop: :acat_bop: :acat_bop: I DRIVE A CHEVROLET ...

2026-02-07T19:02:56Z

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:acat_bop: :acat_bop: :acat_bop: :acat_bop: I DRIVE A CHEVROLET MOVIE THEATER :acat_bop: :acat_bop: :acat_bop: :acat_bop: :acat_bop:

Why would anybody need to spend money in Arknights Endfield when ...

2026-02-07T18:00:45Z

Why would anybody need to spend money in Arknights Endfield when you already get her for free in the first hour of the game?

When Jensen Huang said people using AI were what was actually ...

2026-02-07T17:42:32Z

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When Jensen Huang said people using AI were what was actually going to take all the jobs I am very sure he doesn't mean this guy :facepalm:

STEEL HAZE IS HEREEREE ...

2026-02-01T19:33:25Z

STEEL HAZE IS HEREEREE

kinda sounds like this problem is going to go away in it's ...

2026-02-01T18:43:48Z

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kinda sounds like this problem is going to go away in it's own

I would rather reserve my anger for videogame localisations, since that's a lot more complicated for fans to do anything about

It's not like I can't go back an read a different ...

2026-02-01T18:33:31Z

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It's not like I can't go back an read a different translation later. Hell if my app of choice (kotstsu) or some new reader app comes along making it easy to plug in a local LLM for my own on demand translation that would be a really good excuse to start over on some of my favorites

you can mistake my indifference for stupidity if it makes you ...

2026-02-01T18:27:34Z

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you can mistake my indifference for stupidity if it makes you feel better, I really don't care about this lol

i don't feel very strongly about it because I did not pay for ...

2026-02-01T18:12:25Z

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i don't feel very strongly about it because I did not pay for this, nor did I donate. It's just piracy to me

Using a local LLM to translate the raws on demand is a really cool idea though I could get behind that

oh I didn't know about any of that, but wouldn't AI ...

2026-02-01T18:04:30Z

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oh I didn't know about any of that, but wouldn't AI taking this over just be another MTL?

this is a fan translation I don't think there's any ...

2026-02-01T17:55:40Z

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this is a fan translation I don't think there's any agenda here

>my B, imma bounce Who the hell translated this manga :kekw: ...

2026-02-01T17:45:30Z

>my B, imma bounce

Who the hell translated this manga :kekw:

This isn't surprising. If the game lets me play a catgirl ...

2026-01-31T03:07:19Z

This isn't surprising.

If the game lets me play a catgirl inshallah I'm going to do it

step 1: cut a hole in the box

2026-01-26T23:32:53Z

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step 1: cut a hole in the box

this might have been more of an obligation then. They thought it ...

2026-01-26T23:31:10Z

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this might have been more of an obligation then. They thought it was a good idea at the time and it's too much of a sunk cost to shelve?

HUGE tbh Zoomplat is an underrated store #note17dw…z6hc

2026-01-26T23:23:44Z

HUGE tbh

Zoomplat is an underrated store

quoting
note17dw…z6hc

The Heroic Launcher dropped a new 2.19.0 update, which brings in support for the ZOOM Platform, adds new sync-save options, and more on #SteamDeck:

https://steamdeckhq.com/heroic-launcher-adds-the-zoom-platform/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=mastodon

that's the best part about this Highguard mess. It won't ...

2026-01-26T23:21:39Z

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that's the best part about this Highguard mess. It won't fail over character design, it will fail over being something nobody asked for.

Concord was both, but journ*s would have you believe it only failed because people didn't like the designs.

It's almost like the highguard developers believed the industry's own cover story on concord, so this is our chance to double down and make it clear nobody wants a game like this lol

I think the governor took some kind of protection deal from the ...

2026-01-26T22:57:01Z

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I think the governor took some kind of protection deal from the fraud investigation. Judging by his statements today and sudden cooperation with the feds it seems he's given up. Most likely the speculation that the Lt. Governor really was an admin of those signal group chats is actually true, else it wouldn't have fallen apart so fast IMO

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2026-01-26T22:47:13Z

So how's Highguard?

not music but clips like these are a guilty pleasure ...

2026-01-26T04:06:05Z

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not music but clips like these are a guilty pleasure

Not the raw chocobo :acat_scream: ...

2026-01-26T04:02:12Z

Not the raw chocobo :acat_scream:

AI music frequently amazes me I know it was already low hanging ...

2026-01-26T03:58:29Z

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AI music frequently amazes me I know it was already low hanging fruit because one person with a full music workstation app can arrange a whole song like it's programming software, but still

AI singing voice is still a little uncanny tho

these tools have actually come a long way in a short time tbh

2026-01-13T22:23:11Z

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these tools have actually come a long way in a short time tbh

If TempleOS is God's third temple, then this thing must be ...

2026-01-13T22:13:41Z

If TempleOS is God's third temple, then this thing must be the work of the devil

>inb4 stfu old man I just played a new video game (DxM2) for ...

2026-01-11T09:37:58Z

>inb4 stfu old man

I just played a new video game (DxM2) for 12 hours straight. It's fucking 1:30 AM

I can't remember the last time I did this.

Shit I need to go to bed :cacocry:

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2026-01-09T15:57:56Z

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>MFW I just got back from twitter ...

2026-01-09T07:21:55Z

>MFW I just got back from twitter

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2026-01-03T18:03:49Z

Mastodon's first dictator was kidnapped???

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2025-12-25T22:32:25Z

Santa deniers have no evidence!

2025-12-25T05:42:46Z

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Santa deniers have no evidence!

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2025-12-25T05:04:17Z

I'm this house we are raising Santa BELIEVERS

I should have made a backloggd account sooner. Scrolling through ...

2025-12-20T23:44:45Z

I should have made a backloggd account sooner.

Scrolling through box art of all these old games like i'm goddamn Dumbledore hunched over the Pensieve.

WHO REMEMBERS MACROSS VF-X?

As a kid when my would-be stepfather moved in and joined our family, he had with him a modified PS1 and a binder full of pirated games, some of which were not in english. I remember playing through both of these games, not able to read the menus at all, and it was peak gaming

https://backloggd.com/games/macross-digital-mission-vf-x/series/

and the second one:

https://backloggd.com/games/macross-vf-x-2/series/

the most surprising part for me was how light her oled is. My ...

2025-12-12T23:43:15Z

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the most surprising part for me was how light her oled is. My steamdeck is an LED and is significantly heavier

I'm such a good influence :blob_halo: #note1sah…rkj8

2025-12-12T00:29:27Z

I'm such a good influence :blob_halo:

quoting
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Never going back to windows!!

catgirls :kojimasmug4: ...

2025-12-11T22:20:16Z

catgirls :kojimasmug4:

What game has a dedicated Elf button??????? #note16k6…y2vy

2025-12-09T01:26:26Z

What game has a dedicated Elf button???????

quoting
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#DragOnDragoon

Source: https://twitter.com/NonNon01110/status/1590018226016378880/photo/1

yeah :cacocry:

2025-12-08T19:40:34Z

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yeah :cacocry:

Monolith Soft actually worked with Nintendo before getting bought ...

2025-12-08T19:39:11Z

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Monolith Soft actually worked with Nintendo before getting bought out on those two games, which might explain a lot. Which is also my point of contention here, why not being these experts onto ever game with a big open map Nintendo makes? They could just all be good?

@maxmustermann

Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition (remake of a Wii U ...

2025-12-08T19:37:59Z

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Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition (remake of a Wii U game that also looked this good)

@maxmustermann

normally yes but Nintendo literally bought the one studio that ...

2025-12-08T18:50:51Z

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normally yes but Nintendo literally bought the one studio that made it work 4 times in a row they have no excuse

I want to forgive Metroid Prime 4 for the mostly empty desert. ...

2025-12-08T03:34:03Z

I want to forgive Metroid Prime 4 for the mostly empty desert. It's not like this is an open world game or something it's just a big connecting area.

On the other hand tho, Nintendo literally owns Monolith Soft. I know they can do it right, so we have to now question why they chose not to do it right

I know people make fun of Netflix originals a lot but we gotta ...

2025-12-07T01:50:31Z

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I know people make fun of Netflix originals a lot but we gotta respect the sheer volume of new stuff they film themselves. All other services seem more interested in recycling content from the good ol' days

Just finished watching this Christmas move: "The Grinch That ...

2025-12-07T01:01:32Z

Just finished watching this Christmas move: "The Grinch That Stole Bitches" and all in all it was pretty good. A fierce commentary on women's rights and the true meaning of Christmas :cacomf:

much worse. They purchased Warner Bros. I didn't know they ...

2025-12-05T20:25:38Z

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much worse. They purchased Warner Bros.

I didn't know they had that kind of money

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2025-12-05T20:16:06Z

Netflix bought WHO? :aaaaa:

I'm having my revenge on the dark shores @graf@poa.st act3 ...

2025-11-29T01:20:15Z

I'm having my revenge on the dark shores

@graf@poa.st act3 leveling is going very well 37 hours in :cacomf:

I know mastodon dot art is bad but holy shit Reddit is worse ...

2025-11-28T18:09:46Z

I know mastodon dot art is bad but holy shit Reddit is worse

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2025-11-22T18:49:27Z

Would you consider Eggs to be meat? 🧐

I didn't have a DS but my sister did. I remember she played ...

2025-11-18T21:07:28Z

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I didn't have a DS but my sister did. I remember she played the shit out of Brain Age and Trauma Center: Under the Knife

I found this blog post on lobsters, but then I clicked around and ...

2025-11-18T19:02:01Z

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I found this blog post on lobsters, but then I clicked around and found a slightly more recent post about that

https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2025/11/the-future-is-ours-to-build-together/

I don't know any of these people, but honestly why the hell does Mastodon have a trust and safety team? Did they forget the network is federated? (This is probably continuing the gross conflation of Mastodon-the-company with mastodon.social and joinmastodon.org)

tbh I spend so little time these days following up with or even ...

2025-11-18T16:53:12Z

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tbh I spend so little time these days following up with or even thinking about mastodon I'm not even aware if they fixed all those things we would always bitch about with their software :cacolaugh:

Honestly I don't think M*stodon is going to be better off ...

2025-11-18T16:48:47Z

Honestly I don't think M*stodon is going to be better off without him

https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2025/11/my-next-chapter-with-mastodon/

I'm still planning to play expedition 33 before the year is ...

2025-11-18T03:35:59Z

I'm still planning to play expedition 33 before the year is over but I'm worried the reason it's so overhyped is because it broke containment and appealed to people who think everything Japan makes is for pedophiles and therefore haven't played peak RPGs before