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      <title type="html">📅 Original date posted:2014-03-11 📝 Original message:On ...</title>
    
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      In reply to &lt;a href=&#39;/nevent1qqsqtzuwpf8nw365vjh9ysvyme66dca02569lnj68234r97equ32y6c2atg6f&#39;&gt;nevent1q…tg6f&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;_________________________&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;📅 Original date posted:2014-03-11&lt;br/&gt;📝 Original message:On Tue, 2014-03-11 at 16:18 &#43;0100, Mike Hearn wrote:&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; You can follow HDW progress in bitcoinj on this branch:&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;   &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/bitcoinj/bitcoinj/commits/keychain&#34;&gt;https://github.com/bitcoinj/bitcoinj/commits/keychain&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;    &lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; I&amp;#39;ve been working on it for a couple of months now. Electrum (Thomas&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; V) is also making good progress, and Trezor already uses HD wallets. I&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; think most popular end user wallets except blockchain.info and Bitcoin&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; Core will support HDW soon enough.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Interestingly, Blockchain&amp;#39;s android wallet is based on Android Wallet /&lt;br/&gt;bitcoinj.  So with HD in bitcoinj we would get Multibit, Android Wallet&lt;br/&gt;(Andreas Schildbach&amp;#39;s) and remove one roadblock to Blockchain going HD.&lt;br/&gt;Electrum HD seems more or less ready.  So I&amp;#39;m optimistic that we&amp;#39;ll see&lt;br/&gt;a pretty fast transition to HD for the majority of the user base.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;HD is important for some multisig flows, including the watchdog type&lt;br/&gt;where you want to detect change going back to the wallet.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; At any rate, as Gavin said already, the best way to make a feature you&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; want happen is just to write it. Devrandom is already working on a&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; watchdog service, as is another group (TrustedCoin), and that&amp;#39;s an&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; obvious use for multisig/p2sh. They have API&amp;#39;s already, it&amp;#39;s just a&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; case of standardising them once we get more experience.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We have a proposed flow for watchdog type multisig&lt;br/&gt;here:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://cryptocorp.co/technology.htm&#34;&gt;https://cryptocorp.co/technology.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;and a reference implementation off the Electrum 2.0 branch.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It actually works just like a regular spend from a UX point of view,&lt;br/&gt;unless the watchdog decides that it needs a second factor for a risky&lt;br/&gt;transaction.  With a risky transaction, the user just gets a&lt;br/&gt;callback or enters an OTP.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;-- &lt;br/&gt;Miron
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