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      <title type="html">📅 Original date posted:2015-06-01 📝 Original ...</title>
    
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      In reply to &lt;a href=&#39;/nevent1qqsg8mxq9fldequrrp88gdqutna9pm7t04wdv2ydyg9zwv96hf3mksgnxcqnu&#39;&gt;nevent1q…cqnu&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;_________________________&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;📅 Original date posted:2015-06-01&lt;br/&gt;📝 Original message:&amp;gt;What do other people think?&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;If we can&amp;#39;t come to an agreement soon, then I&amp;#39;ll ask for help&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;reviewing/submitting patches to Mike&amp;#39;s Bitcoin-Xt project that implement a&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;big increase now that grows over time so we may never have to go through&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;all this rancor and debate again.&amp;#34;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;I&amp;#39;ll then ask for help lobbying the merchant services and exchanges and&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;hosted wallet companies and other bitcoind-using-infrastructure companies&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It&amp;#39;s surprising to see a core dev going to the public to defend a proposal&lt;br/&gt;most other core devs disagree on, and then lobbying the Bitcoin ecosystem.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This is an very unhealthy way to go because it incentives the other core&lt;br/&gt;devs to stop their technical work and go public and lobby too (cf G.Maxwell&lt;br/&gt;trying to raise redditters awareness).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We need core devs to work on technical issues, not waste time doing&lt;br/&gt;politics, but Gavin&amp;#39;s confrontational approach doesn&amp;#39;t give them much of a&lt;br/&gt;choice.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I fear that because of this approach, in the next monthes, core devs with&lt;br/&gt;be lobbying and doing politics : precious time will be wasted for everyone&lt;br/&gt;having stake in Bitcoin.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Regarding the 20MB proposal content:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Decentralization is the core of Bitcoin&amp;#39;s security model and thus that&amp;#39;s&lt;br/&gt;what gives Bitcoin its value.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The danger is that decentralization tends naturally towards centralization,&lt;br/&gt;because centralization is more efficient. Going from decentralization to&lt;br/&gt;centralization is easy, going the other way is a lot harder :&lt;br/&gt;decentralization we lose, may never be gained back.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Regarding &amp;#34;the urgency to do something&amp;#34;:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I believe it would be extremely healthy for the network to bump into any&lt;br/&gt;limit ASAP ... (let it be 1MB) : to incentive layer 2 and offchain&lt;br/&gt;solutions to scale Bitcoin : there are promising designs/solutions out&lt;br/&gt;there (LN, ChainDB, OtherCoin protocole, ...), but most don&amp;#39;t get much&lt;br/&gt;attention, because there is right now no need for them. And, I am sure new&lt;br/&gt;solutions will be invented.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If during the &amp;#34;1MB bumpy period&amp;#34; something goes wrong, consensus among the&lt;br/&gt;community would be reached easily if necessary.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Pretending there is urgency and that Apocalypse is approaching is a fallacy.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The Gavin 20MB proposal is compromising Bitcoin&amp;#39;s long-term security in an&lt;br/&gt;irreversible way, for gaining short-term better user experience.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I oppose the Gavin proposal in both content and form.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Cheers,&lt;br/&gt;Jerome&lt;br/&gt;-------------- next part --------------&lt;br/&gt;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&lt;br/&gt;URL: &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150601/2c17e1f9/attachment.html&amp;gt&#34;&gt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150601/2c17e1f9/attachment.html&amp;gt&lt;/a&gt;;
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