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      <title type="html">📅 Original date posted:2015-08-18 📝 Original message:And ...</title>
    
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      In reply to &lt;a href=&#39;/nevent1qqsvvfjfneyvzp2m0canx854r7un9kaqu6c8mrme9mcfpldj2zhqgkql2shzx&#39;&gt;nevent1q…shzx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;_________________________&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;📅 Original date posted:2015-08-18&lt;br/&gt;📝 Original message:And this is how the powers that be compromise bitcoin. They can&amp;#39;t stop&lt;br/&gt;TCP/IP, but they sure can take over the development team. It&amp;#39;s a good thing&lt;br/&gt;that no one from the CIA has had any conversations with anyone from the&lt;br/&gt;bitcoin development team. Phew...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Oliver Egginger via bitcoin-dev &amp;lt;&lt;br/&gt;bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&amp;gt; wrote:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; Am 18.08.2015 um 11:15 schrieb Warren Togami Jr.:&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; I honestly don&amp;#39;t understand your position, but I get the sense that you&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; are suggesting Satoshi wouldn&amp;#39;t be welcome to return if he wanted to be&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; active in development again?&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; Who am I? Personally I have zero objection if the creator steps in. I&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; think he would be highly welcome by the most people. At first I had the&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; impression that the email was a fake, but maybe I was wrong. At the&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; moment I think: Maybe it&amp;#39;s even the best if we do not know exactly&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; whether it was Satoshi or not.&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; Unanimity is mission critical for Bitcoin and must be an absolute&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; priority. If not the vast majority is in favor for a fork, then the fork&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; should be avoided until a consensus is found. Even if it takes until the&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; cows come home.&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; But it is very likely now that it will come to a fork. No matter which&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; site will win, this will produce a lot of humiliated people at the end.&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; That&amp;#39;s not good and leads to bitterness on both sites.&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; - oliver&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; _______________________________________________&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; bitcoin-dev mailing list&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&#34;https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev&#34;&gt;https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;-------------- next part --------------&lt;br/&gt;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&lt;br/&gt;URL: &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150818/c2b56f99/attachment-0001.html&amp;gt&#34;&gt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150818/c2b56f99/attachment-0001.html&amp;gt&lt;/a&gt;;
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      In reply to &lt;a href=&#39;/nevent1qqsf00wl760k5geaypxknrklw4kpuzaw8ae9zc9ygrmnh3g2wtda8tcyatemr&#39;&gt;nevent1q…temr&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;_________________________&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;📅 Original date posted:2015-08-17&lt;br/&gt;📝 Original message:Satoshi,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As much as I want to believe this is you it&amp;#39;s very difficult to ignore the&lt;br/&gt;fact that Vistomail could have been hacked and I&amp;#39;m currently speaking to a&lt;br/&gt;troll.&lt;br/&gt;Can you copy and paste what you wrote above, to&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://p2pfoundation.ning.com&#34;&gt;http://p2pfoundation.ning.com&lt;/a&gt; as well, like how you did during the Dorian&lt;br/&gt;fiasco?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Much appreciated.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Satoshi Nakamoto via bitcoin-dev &amp;lt;&lt;br/&gt;bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&amp;gt; wrote:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; I have been following the recent block size debates through the mailing&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; list.  I had hoped the debate would resolve and that a fork proposal would&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; achieve widespread consensus.  However with the formal release of Bitcoin&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; XT 0.11A, this looks unlikely to happen, and so I am forced to share my&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; concerns about this very dangerous fork.&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; The developers of this pretender-Bitcoin claim to be following my original&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; vision, but nothing could be further from the truth.  When I designed&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; Bitcoin, I designed it in such a way as to make future modifications to the&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; consensus rules difficult without near unanimous agreement.  Bitcoin was&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; designed to be protected from the influence of charismatic leaders, even if&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; their name is Gavin Andresen, Barack Obama, or Satoshi Nakamoto.  Nearly&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; everyone has to agree on a change, and they have to do it without being&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; forced or pressured into it.  By doing a fork in this way, these developers&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; are violating the &amp;#34;original vision&amp;#34; they claim to honour.&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; They use my old writings to make claims about what Bitcoin was supposed to&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; be.  However I acknowledge that a lot has changed since that time, and new&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; knowledge has been gained that contradicts some of my early opinions.  For&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; example I didn&amp;#39;t anticipate pooled mining and its effects on the security&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; of the network.  Making Bitcoin a competitive monetary system while also&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; preserving its security properties is not a trivial problem, and we should&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; take more time to come up with a robust solution.  I suspect we need a&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; better incentive for users to run nodes instead of relying solely on&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; altruism.&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; If two developers can fork Bitcoin and succeed in redefining what&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;#34;Bitcoin&amp;#34; is, in the face of widespread technical criticism and through the&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; use of populist tactics, then I will have no choice but to declare Bitcoin&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; a failed project.  Bitcoin was meant to be both technically and socially&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; robust.  This present situation has been very disappointing to watch unfold.&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; Satoshi Nakamoto&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; _______________________________________________&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; bitcoin-dev mailing list&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&#34;https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev&#34;&gt;https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;-------------- next part --------------&lt;br/&gt;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&lt;br/&gt;URL: &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150817/d49b7b8b/attachment-0001.html&amp;gt&#34;&gt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150817/d49b7b8b/attachment-0001.html&amp;gt&lt;/a&gt;;
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