2023-02-05T20:22:37Z https://nostr.ae Carlos https://nostr.ae/npub1zg69v7z7u7q4w5wzsqzwdnh58x8py4hef2fm750eqqvw9zkvh76q4yjdwv https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsq9rca0famcvk9xqyepyy4fuhhtdx5ahrx7gq6sj9a0xhpv0grd3czyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgkyhlx2 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsdnnex2up0xh5803pw95kvt8ry7kcna0hu8r26mgfnxps8ftdfl7qppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp00zrur8'>nevent1q…rur8</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>It worked a year ago, as I recorded the demos, but now some APIs have changed and it stopped working.<br/><br/>I can fix them if anyone&#39;s interested. 2024-06-27T06:26:36Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsdnnex2up0xh5803pw95kvt8ry7kcna0hu8r26mgfnxps8ftdfl7qzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgrur5lm In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs9q89fjruwqyv5mfsfc8crynzhlr7duvvyehdvpwh5k0xmm8ewmqgppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0yzhvwl'>nevent1q…hvwl</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Yes: <a href="https://lab.oak-node.net/powpub">https://lab.oak-node.net/powpub</a><br/><br/>A few demos:<br/><br/> <img src="https://lab.oak-node.net/powpub/uv/demo/demo-client.gif"> <br/><br/> <img src="https://oak-node.net/uv/demo/demo-powpub-client.gif"> 2024-06-27T06:22:21Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsz045re59q3fy3j9j54ws5hkqmg327japuqg96fhqgqwy6c8d6g4qzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgmp779r The nostr github bot <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub15vukwsk3dcsfm0hkmeu9qfyp3elmtdlk3kdxc0h87gd8wfdp8a2swuu4kv" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>NostrGithubBot</span> (<span class="italic">npub15vu…u4kv</span>)</a></span> may just be the first bot who&#39;s using PoW.<br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub1xdtducdnjerex88gkg2qk2atsdlqsyxqaag4h05jmcpyspqt30wscmntxy" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>brugeman</span> (<span class="italic">npub1xdt…ntxy</span>)</a></span> that&#39;s pretty cool.<br/><br/>I&#39;m curious, what&#39;s the rationale behind it? 2023-12-09T10:22:48Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqqqgmpefgavgsyw6y7qlnzsvw5fpktsala38hpvksu8yy0w9fqzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgy4042l <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub13azv2cf3kd3xdzcwqxlgcudjg7r9nzak37usnn7h374lkpvd6rcq4k8m54" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>doot</span> (<span class="italic">npub13az…8m54</span>)</a></span> wen NIP-07 support for get-tao?<br/><br/>Atm there&#39;s no way to re-use a pubkey across PoW posts. 2023-12-09T09:58:52Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqqqykpum85pzzhazgqrf5a22793mxllgt0r9z8tmnweh575tyqzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmg8smqu8 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs9s7cnj9rvdf99revdlzpe23t8ck2zxawy7ttzkhtyqefalgg6xzgpzpmhxue69uhk2tnwdaejumr0dshsqlpmwt'>nevent1q…pmwt</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Default 21 PoW works, but if I change anything in the settings, posting doesn&#39;t work. It tries to connect to <a href="http://localhost:42068/powgen">http://localhost:42068/powgen</a> and fails. 2023-12-06T05:44:19Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqqqytp02fu2am4am4kara56gzgmc644yaffnuxyjkp8qdtw0ygzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgz5udh5 PoW vs PoS, nostr edition<br/><blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/note10ms7220wus9fujuxafcfze7qgu64edelkuq6pajmcq7fr7x8tsrqyl8umt" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">note10ms…8umt</a></span><br/> </div> You may not like it, but censorship resistance is the value prop. Everything else follows. </blockquote><blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/note1y0s6ky8tr7ldq79qa6kg92cz3hg5x5ctj9et26nx43juegkavyrqlz6d78" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">note1y0s…6d78</a></span> </div> Zaps represent the only fundamentally new innovation in social media.<br/><br/>Everything else is a distraction. </blockquote> 2023-12-06T05:12:52Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqqqqlw503t85s5yevclnznjeg2esvr2pnss4qyn4373ll6fa4czyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmg0rjffd In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs8vn06yt5ex8xdqumvpew94c34e4p7ccgm7ejkdm46uhcmlu5u2dcpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtcvpayhh'>nevent1q…ayhh</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>I tried the latest master with rust 1.74 on a fresh new checkout.<br/><br/>`cargo build` worked. 2023-12-06T04:44:30Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqqqpvq8e9r2tz40saduvyy6syjnnw2x7ccr858nt76076esyggzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgfzy7gc In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsymq80ytdnw0flrlvsvrx4ssmalfvzsmkp0ffwvsq5ess3n23xzhspzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtcdswzn2'>nevent1q…wzn2</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>TLDR: Spammers will only actually spam with PoW if it makes economic sense. This means PoW mining has a price at which it is profitable, which means there will be miners specializing in selling event hashrate at the cheapest price. This is great news for mobile clients, who can tap into that and simply buy PoW if they so desire. If spammer GPU miners make hashrate cheap for spammers, they will also make it cheap for honest users. The spammers are at a disadvantage though, as a sustained attack means continuous costs. For honest users, worst case this means a one-time cost (post as anon during spam attack, see below).<br/><br/>---<br/><br/>A dynamically adjusted PoW requirement by relays is IMO an easy and cheap way to reduce spam:<br/><br/>- A sustained spam attack on one relay is impractical. To keep the spam going = spammers have to keep burning lots of energy continuously.<br/>- A sustained spam attack on multiple relays is extremely impractical, as every relay can have its own &#34;PoW gateway&#34; even for the same event (see AUTH example below).<br/><br/>At best, spammers might venture for short bursts of spam, affecting a few relays for short periods of time.<br/><br/>Most clients won&#39;t even be affected during a spam attack. If they only read, they see no difference. If they want to post, they only see a difference if they post<br/>1) at the time of the attack,<br/>2) to a relay that is under attack,<br/>3) have no history or subscription to that relay (see below), and<br/>4) do not wish to buy even moderate amounts of PoW.<br/><br/>Worst case, they can simply wait a bit and post a few seconds later. Or buy some PoW and post now.<br/><br/>Relays can use PoW in a bunch of ways that make life harder for spammers while sparing real users, like for example:<br/>- plain PoW for every new event: dynamically adjust up or down based on server load (spammers must mine now or stop spamming; honest users can simply post later, when PoW threshold is lower)<br/>- plain PoW for every session: same as above, but only ask for PoW in the AUTH event, which is once per session. Authenticated users can have fair-use or common-sense rate limiting, like max 1 event per second per session. If spammers want to go faster than that, they&#39;d have to re-AUTH, so mine again.<br/>- plain PoW for AUTH for anons, no PoW (or lower) for subscribed paying members: Paid accounts have their npubs whitelisted from PoW requirements. The higher the subscription level, the higher the chance they&#39;re not spammers, so the bigger the PoW discount can be. This adds another incentive for paid subscriptions to relays.<br/>- plain PoW for new events from new keys: Combination of the above, where strictest POW requirement apply only to new events from fresh keys with no previous activity.<br/><br/>What affects spammers for 100% of their activity, and reduces their attack to short bursts -- benefits the honest users 100% of their time, and reduces their inconvenience to short bursts, if at all. 2023-12-05T09:46:29Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqqqghm3jd2p68s08gmkq9ccfy2zcmmnp2nf0k965glr70hjhvqzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmggz2ru6 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqstccsuhp4wmrx7tjnlymuvyveqx0z6ynwxzgfulqqxns9xq2z9lxsppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp06669gq'>nevent1q…69gq</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>&#34;Almost-Unforgeable Zaps: Wash-zapping can be almost entirely eliminated by requiring zaps to have PoW attached. The client can choose what an acceptable amount of PoW is, either absolute or relative to the zap amount. Anything below this threshold can be considered possible wash-zapping and ignored.&#34;<br/><br/><a href="https://oak-node.net/book/powwow/use_cases.html">https://oak-node.net/book/powwow/use_cases.html</a> 2023-12-05T07:56:21Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqqq2wa5y6z3krp6d0368nddtu6uqnfrk6hysylsq7lkmusp6cgzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmg4ytghp In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqspyfmewvrfdjfq2a75dnnn5p4t2chg4dsmcama442uchesmm7m0xsppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0hekhjk'>nevent1q…khjk</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Re your 1. &#34;PoW as an anti-spam measure&#34;:<br/><br/>I&#39;m working on PoW WoW, a distributed marketplace for event PoW. Can be used by mobile clients who can&#39;t afford to mine themselves, allows miners to join or leave at will, and be paid non-custodially over LN.<br/><br/>It has Rust libraries for clients and providers, but I can add bindings for other languages too.<br/><blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/note1qqqqqqpphaqu6jxayvczlajf3h7s57dvzwcsr9cp83lxuh2nd6dq29r9dd" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">note1qqq…r9dd</a></span> </div> PoW WoW v0.1 is out!<br/><br/>It is a distributed marketplace for event PoW.<br/><br/>Anyone can be a client, offering to buy PoW for their event. And anyone can be a provider, selling hashrate.<br/><br/>A reputation system based on past trade behavior punishes dishonest clients or providers. For example, a client who creates requests but doesn't pay gets a bad reputation. Similarly, a provider who delivers a blinded solution which, after payment and unblinding, turns out to have less bits of PoW than asked by the client, also gets a negative reputation.<br/><br/>There are 3 clients available: WASM, CLI, and a Gossip fork. A CLI provider is available for those who want to try out mining.<br/><br/>Check it out at <a href="https://lab.oak-node.net/powwow">https://lab.oak-node.net/powwow</a><br/><br/>cc <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub19mduaf5569jx9xz555jcx3v06mvktvtpu0zgk47n4lcpjsz43zzqhj6vzk" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>NostReport</span> (<span class="italic">npub19md…6vzk</span>)</a></span> <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub1hxjnw53mhghumt590kgd3fmqme8jzwwflyxesmm50nnapmqdzu7swqagw3" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>No Bullshit Bitcoin</span> (<span class="italic">npub1hxj…agw3</span>)</a></span> </blockquote> 2023-12-05T07:51:44Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqs2e5u5x9de0yn2z0awsqwnrtpggp45hducke022adftaqpp7n58zczyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmg0psg72 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsp342kfan4hta0vdgd5dju8874xat3805ythsanqyq4zjft4lf3xqppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0w75lu9'>nevent1q…5lu9</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>`cargo clean` also helps. 2023-12-05T07:17:27Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqqqftsze7dswgf0cy3rehuwlnm44tnxxdx049nxxmzwy23cynqzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgljp44t In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsxgldqz8rvku7aanqc9pm658e784ytz7qy2fl7s2wgqexuk5nwjagpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtcnul2p4'>nevent1q…l2p4</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>That&#39;s one hop away (you trust Uncle Jim).<br/><br/>But if one of Uncle Jim&#39;s friends (2nd hop) signs the attestation? What if its 3 hops away?<br/><br/>It gets real tricky real fast. 2023-12-04T20:40:59Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqqqfva5vj3c7e03lxansmc7l8xcaj5c7ekgm0laaay7qvvhrgqzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmg8rz2vr In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsd9sr74y4aqjmfqvpcmes0zcs2wcj87e4sy0p45avr2rry3ht6g6spypmhxue69uhkummnw3ezuetfde6kuer6wasku7nfvuh8xurpvdjj7qdrksh'>nevent1q…rksh</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>You mistyped PoW there.<br/><br/>LN promotes spam resistance only for the sender and receiver, cause only they can tell if a payment (zap) is real or not. Any 3rd party cannot tell the difference between a payment and a self-payment.<br/><br/>Outside of direct connections, distingushing spam from non-spam becomes exponentially harder, the further you go down the social graph.<br/><br/>Problem is, there will always be good content voiced through anons. Any platform with a spam filter that ignores this is self-limiting.<br/><br/>A good way for anons to cut through the bot noise is with PoW. 2023-12-04T19:26:59Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqqq0nlh2q8lllnlnv0yuwd8uydjkfuf274pchh80ffmtpe4tdczyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgf6pdul In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsfn9gdraqju32ee4uzcknsafwzaqknalm2rmv73huxkptcrpxc0zqpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtcv052ha'>nevent1q…52ha</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Looking forward to it! 2023-12-04T19:04:57Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqqqpf2senjekhlr4hr0mnzvslf5fkql9naszw95waf9jmqlhuczyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgpc4z9f In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsxvxj82grkgdfu9ct3nau8pc54a0wnqzf8fnr69t93c0r2lyehvjgppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0njzy4w'>nevent1q…zy4w</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Yes but its a very long list<br/><br/><a href="https://www.nostr.net">https://www.nostr.net</a> 2023-12-04T19:02:59Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqqqz8zvvjpwpzxdwsdrajv3ves64lj06xq65a20ggmzzlcjreszyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmg3dldtf In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsd7eu635m0nz4r63uhzrn4urm08jwg2hwww6948nwvkv0j85lg6nqpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtcu6lqpn'>nevent1q…lqpn</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>No, but you could create a fake wrapper event, add random data in a tag, and sign that.<br/><br/><a href="https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/blob/master/07.md">https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/blob/master/07.md</a> 2023-12-04T18:28:10Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqqqt82k526n4tcy0d6a5yy4u0tjqsdvclwq3tgvlcmh7qjfw9gzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmghuz3mm In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs9uv8wrqq2svhanujkpg2js4yhvhl5a0m0dj3syzr2u8pkqgqu6mcpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhs63c700'>nevent1q…c700</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Is there a way to reward answers with plain and simple sats? I&#39;ve only seen the zap option.<br/><br/>Zaps leave a trace for every payment (sender, receiver, amount) in nostr events, but simple LNURL doesn&#39;t. 2023-12-04T18:17:15Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqqqfdy0ag8zlxhtgnkakjw37pf9rgea6zkydmmrc5qdu4vnpxgzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmglqnhhw In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsg0877k3yzjz6ah6ma69uqq8uddssrr2g6qmjahndzp434fwk7hjqpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtcl5va0g'>nevent1q…va0g</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Feel free to give it a shot. I didn&#39;t try that myself because my Umbrel runs on a very old and low-powered raspi.<br/><br/> <img src="https://i.redd.it/oabjm4opcoz81.jpg"> 2023-12-04T17:58:07Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqqqp7y87yjvfjp8a53peedxs3qenhllkweggfmpzfrrgu6cq0qzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgxyqure In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqstlhpz4xfl4qekq5y7k783jc8lk24entwyrkj56rmlh3wke99appcpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtc9r6l73'>nevent1q…6l73</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Thanks, fixed. 2023-12-04T17:43:10Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqqqwp9l53ruqk6ym7fjc7lvs72lkzmwuhpwevet28fk5u2nk8czyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgcax33g PoW WoW goes 007!<br/><br/>You can now use any NIP-07 browser extensions, like nos2x or Alby, to buy PoW for your notes.<br/><br/><a href="https://oak-node.net/demo/powwow/">https://oak-node.net/demo/powwow/</a> 2023-12-03T18:24:24Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqqq2ymmqu005ju0wl8jg6cf9rgkaa00fgl50t78unqntr6rk6czyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmg50wxhw In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqswhyn3nw35nt6l0dk8eqwg6f94vmv3g4aaak6vmgpd57st6mjhqxspzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtc6wyruh'>nevent1q…yruh</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Would work for either individual highest-PoW likes, or the posts with highest sum(pow(like)).<br/><br/>First is easier, second is cooler. Tough choice. 2023-12-03T18:12:59Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqswhyn3nw35nt6l0dk8eqwg6f94vmv3g4aaak6vmgpd57st6mjhqxszyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmggt3yu5 <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub13azv2cf3kd3xdzcwqxlgcudjg7r9nzak37usnn7h374lkpvd6rcq4k8m54" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>doot</span> (<span class="italic">npub13az…8m54</span>)</a></span> could getwired have a page with the highest-PoW likes in the last 24h? So instead of showing count(likes), it shows count(pow(like))? Or have a toggle to switch between them?<br/><br/>Everyone compains likes are meaningless (see &#34;onlyzaps&#34; feature on Damus).<br/><br/>But IMO PoW engagement (likes, reposts, replies) are even better than &#34;zaps&#34;, because you cannot fake it like with wash-zaps. 2023-12-03T18:08:40Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqqqpg9ghhw79c9sacpgfxtrtfnk8vflsm2ztawwm2fn6hhw55gzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgdu2vse In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsqqqqqdp0kl3kwrktylweg5n9s2zqvuq2a4r7zgxh97hqyyf83q5gprfmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuam9d3kx7unyv4ezumn9wshswvk3yd'>nevent1q…k3yd</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Agree, nothing is set in stone.<br/><br/>A good protocol can be ignored for years, but can suddenly catch on for a random reason:<blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/note164gpkkc792mm7le43pytx9vjlgdrmu54cdm3wm4awrvw7mz9c2wqvyg9u3" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">note164g…g9u3</a></span><br/> </div> I have heard for years from UX specialists that Lightning would never be used by "normies" because QR codes were too confusing.<br/><br/>Then in less than 2 years PIX came from nowhere and became the most used payment system in Brazil and the people love the QR code experience. </blockquote><br/>IMO nostr will sooner or later turn to PoW, so the more methods for using it and buying it, the better. 2023-12-01T06:49:00Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqs90xyehk3hmkxgsw2lezu5whka0ffm62h85gxy7crnutplk7ajdvgzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgkd8v84 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqspm7h4t6degum6hamlpy30fa0nacwlr9567r3wfkev3qrqm5ulrkgpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtc6w0wvy'>nevent1q…0wvy</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>LMK if I can help with the payment setup.<br/><br/>Btw when this gets merged<br/><br/><a href="https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/pull/685">https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/pull/685</a><br/><br/>the PoW provider will work with simple NWC. 2023-12-01T06:20:57Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqs03qt5s004rw8ce98tel8wyyyryvex734flaxvl8dxw4076ytqf6czyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgvt3lmy In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsgcmfwswsvf8e2ahzkrs92f3jmgrhwvythcu3t9gl2wlhl8ujwfzsppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0gy2xmt'>nevent1q…2xmt</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Yes it solves that problem, but adds trust in the mint.<br/><br/>You&#39;re not receiving sats per se, you&#39;re receiving cashu, which is redeemable to sats via the mint. 2023-11-30T22:57:30Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqqqwduv0phy94wxs0tzt24l8d7mzttk76nvhudrhska8fhssagzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmg3mf7ma In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsr4ntlpaxp3vwvk6z2t5qmyxhaemssthd7l7a99dus7gjtfkxjemqpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtcaafqqx'>nevent1q…fqqx</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Isn&#39;t mutiny the one that blastr uses?<br/><br/>If so, it&#39;s probably the best choice cause it blasts the notes to most (all?) public relays. 2023-11-30T20:47:37Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqs00usm0wtsegu25h7hnz7456y0wrtlewjhtkqz903rsnxam6czlfqzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgalc2rc In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsqqqqq0tqsvv0q7net83lpxa4ksln9ddlee9empuug7uw38pu4fggpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtc7lxd9y'>nevent1q…xd9y</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>My bad, looks like it works with normal &#34;pay to LN Address&#34; too.<br/><blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/note12uef3dqxsf46d4vrszvjwgjgytfcdzgm8v6jgw3ha3pjzfyhcl2q07ppmc" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">note12ue…ppmc</a></span> </div> Blink and BlueWallet fail due to invoice Metadata not matching description_hash (this is a known related problem) </blockquote> 2023-11-30T20:40:35Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqqq0tqsvv0q7net83lpxa4ksln9ddlee9empuug7uw38pu4fggzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgx3xyuu In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsqqqqqfhnj6564j4t9grpm2wsjyr6f54jfrrx6gmky9vgnhcpyt0spzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtcns77mj'>nevent1q…77mj</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>AFAIK Blixt and Phoenix do the plain anonymous &#34;pay to LN Address flow&#34;, which doesn&#39;t touch nostr. 2023-11-30T20:37:36Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqqqfhnj6564j4t9grpm2wsjyr6f54jfrrx6gmky9vgnhcpyt0szyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmglrk5ds In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsqslrjre8u4w87t2j6suz606td009xmrrqnc28ua780l6q3fc8ltsppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp02dzp6c'>nevent1q…zp6c</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>I think it relies on the privacy-invazive zap flow, meaning your LN tip leaves traces in nostr events of who sent the sats.<br/><br/>Otherwise it wouldn&#39;t know the npub of the sender, e.g. who to send the DM to with the token. 2023-11-30T20:36:31Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqqqvq2c48ddvxc96ckph6j878neawpdf52a7u000ycg0kxtz9qzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgk8gy70 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsgkzytjp68vc9slz3c35uqjw4rv7kq6dz9ry5qh3ksmn7tpkyl9kspzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtcurdg7k'>nevent1q…dg7k</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>The NIP for ephemeral events (incl. some used in NWC flow) was recently updated, not all relays respect that. Some SDKs expect the new behavior, which leads to weird bugs when using older non-compliant relays.<br/><br/>See more details here: <a href="https://github.com/rust-nostr/nostr/issues/164#issuecomment-1786049227">https://github.com/rust-nostr/nostr/issues/164#issuecomment-1786049227</a><br/><br/>To be backward compatible and handle both types of relays, make sure to not expect an &#34;OK&#34; response after sending an ephemeral event. 2023-11-30T20:24:58Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsfplra3f05yhc9v8wcn9pd9lzepl7tuwd84qy2j2zmvsfrkz3w8pszyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgxhchc7 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqstpyhend9afcu7qnf3ezl0mae79tkn03xjr2nn788jgtfpn2zt6rgppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0sc4r64'>nevent1q…4r64</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Hey <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub1zfss807aer0j26mwp2la0ume0jqde3823rmu97ra6sgyyg956e0s6xw445" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>reya</span> (<span class="italic">npub1zfs…w445</span>)</a></span> , it was great to see you add NWC so early on. I used it extensively to test some of my own NWC implementations.<br/><br/>Tried to use it now and I see it on a screen that links it to zaps: &#34;Nostr Wallet Connect / Send zaps easily with Bitcoin Lightning&#34;<br/><br/>Is there a way to use NWC in Lume to just send LN tips? e.g. without the privacy invasive zap overhead? 2023-11-30T20:05:35Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqqqf77cgku0rcjjz24n39dq4nc29m7tff3wcmgfvfy8pttqsaszyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmg77cwdr In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqszkcwhg2jqdtjssqdzltd8cdz9qs0wxx6wwu4eyw09gt8pegm8h7sppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0pvusnn'>nevent1q…usnn</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Also interested in that.<br/><br/>The closest to this I tried is <a href="https://localai.io">https://localai.io</a> which can do images, but not video yet. 2023-11-30T19:35:01Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsp02auknr7tzqg9vu4n464z000p2m40ud2ncr5ap6q7k0tznev5vqzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgh2dvyz In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsx02wnlmuk55ufmww42hatvtc9ex9g4qhwdwxs76uwymyjdy5gy0gpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtcznzwuj'>nevent1q…zwuj</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Why not ask for PoW, like<blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/note1dvxg3spw63afsffh4kexwwh94vf643seh99kvp7zcvywec0cl57sh3pz5e" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">note1dvx…pz5e</a></span> </div> This is how email services should prevent spam and abuse on registration, not KYC, Tor-blocking, phone numbers, etc.<br/> <img src="https://m.primal.net/HQlY.png"> <br/>Nice going cock<dot>li !!! </blockquote>? 2023-11-29T21:31:39Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqs07racvczg324e759q4zsn552vuxc9q0ne6y7a69qxrgyfndsx8tczyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmg0kx4p4 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsqqv77trfjlmm0s9n4cur05j6t9rqcxkecexrdrr7hkxk2uhw37espzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtcmg7dp9'>nevent1q…7dp9</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Sounds impractical.<br/><br/>Nobody would go for a &#34;pay per sent email&#34; mail provider. 2023-11-29T21:23:34Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqs0yqkteu30avulf9cspd5087ttlh5e7jgd55hl38e8230lmz6nvcqzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgffk4dj In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs2hrym7sza27sz3wnjnfu2nh8wkj3mf7r3ewjktkcjsfhxfwf58xqpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtch0fh2g'>nevent1q…fh2g</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>I agree, its the relays who face the brunt of the spam, so they have to deal with it the most.<br/><br/>IMO there are 2 ways to go about it:<br/><br/>1) Paid relays. This means only members can post. This means free relays are left behind, vulnerable to spam attacks. Which is a disaster for onboarding, as new users will basically have to pay to post on nostr.<br/><br/>2) PoW. Just like Tor is using PoW to defend against spam attacks, relays can dynamically ask for PoW for new events, or even for subscriptions. Higher relay load = higher PoW needed. PoW means constant work for spammers and only occasional work for honest posters. If you look at the bigger picture, it exponentially harder for spammers to attack multiple PoW relays at once. This is good news for honest users, who will likely be using a few relays: if some relays are under attack, the others are likely not, so you can still post at a low or no PoW threshold.<br/><br/>Either sats or mining, it comes down to a provable cost. At the end of the day, sats are PoW are interchangeable. You can buy PoW with sats, or sell PoW for sats.<br/><br/>TL;DR: With PoW all relays, including the free ones, have a chance to ward off spam atacks. 2023-11-29T21:20:47Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqspphewclcsrxxvx6e4t3ruukv947m60p3dahcsqckyg6rs5wyxwlszyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgtuyfcy In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs2cg2dxg9sjfm9jlwa3z8k305w2cfdzfnvrdxfdnclkc9d3fvuvtcppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0u7nz9f'>nevent1q…nz9f</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><a href="https://api.invidious.io">https://api.invidious.io</a><br/><br/>Choose an instance close to you.<br/><br/>Haven&#39;t seen any YT ads in years. 2023-11-29T08:32:15Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqqqqqsm7swdfrwjxvp07eycmlg20xkp8vgpjuqnclnwt4fkaxszyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgdtuss3 PoW WoW v0.1 is out!<br/><br/>It is a distributed marketplace for event PoW.<br/><br/>Anyone can be a client, offering to buy PoW for their event. And anyone can be a provider, selling hashrate.<br/><br/>A reputation system based on past trade behavior punishes dishonest clients or providers. For example, a client who creates requests but doesn&#39;t pay gets a bad reputation. Similarly, a provider who delivers a blinded solution which, after payment and unblinding, turns out to have less bits of PoW than asked by the client, also gets a negative reputation.<br/><br/>There are 3 clients available: WASM, CLI, and a Gossip fork. A CLI provider is available for those who want to try out mining.<br/><br/>Check it out at <a href="https://lab.oak-node.net/powwow">https://lab.oak-node.net/powwow</a><br/><br/>cc <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub19mduaf5569jx9xz555jcx3v06mvktvtpu0zgk47n4lcpjsz43zzqhj6vzk" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>NostReport</span> (<span class="italic">npub19md…6vzk</span>)</a></span> <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub1hxjnw53mhghumt590kgd3fmqme8jzwwflyxesmm50nnapmqdzu7swqagw3" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>No Bullshit Bitcoin</span> (<span class="italic">npub1hxj…agw3</span>)</a></span> 2023-11-28T20:22:04Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsgatj3s8cnz90l7rqjpgp7gwlg5pfw3xp8zfgcyftqc7s8m0c63yqzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgvr8ykl In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqspjf0vd4z55uvnkjcq6cg53fhwj6cg7p8n5xjfnthrmhql4ywv3rspzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtcrd2tgc'>nevent1q…2tgc</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>I&#39;m using blastr to send PoW notes.<br/><br/>I see them show up on powrelay and getwired, so it must be working. 2023-11-28T17:29:30Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqq6nmmdkhqun7htvajtsuethxlj92llx6pup4he8yc9jneku27egzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgd3av3r In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsgreytg23ea5wjt4g49hm044s9jcnnfj9xvwzkppzsr9sxrcm2sacpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtcugxepf'>nevent1q…xepf</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Or pay for PoW from mobile, for any event:<blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/note1qqqd3xhsuvz2xnvacr3rva3x85p0xt40rcxwxpvm4uk8xly4tc7s5m8g0d" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">note1qqq…8g0d</a></span><br/> </div> Looking for testers or feedback on PoW WoW.<br/><br/>It's a protocol to buy PoW for any notes, or to sell hashrate.<br/><br/>The idea is: clients can start "shopping" for PoW for any event they create. They say how much PoW they want, how fast, and how much they're willing to pay. Providers mine the PoW and send it over together with an invoice. The PoW is packaged in such a way that it's only usable after the invoice is paid (e.g. the preimage is known). Long story short, after the client pays, they can "open" (unblind) the PoW, add it to their event, and broadcast it right away.<br/><br/>To see it in action: <video controls width="100%" class="max-h-[90vh] bg-neutral-300 dark:bg-zinc-700"><source src="https://lab.oak-node.net/powwow/uv/demo/powwow_20231123.mp4"></video><br/><br/>For details see <a href="https://oak-node.net/book/powwow/">https://oak-node.net/book/powwow/</a><br/><br/>Any feedback or questions, let me know! Thanks.<br/><br/>#pow #askstr </blockquote><br/>Yes scammers have botnets, but they&#39;ll only use them when it&#39;s economically viable. But if it&#39;s economically viable to mine PoW for spam, then:<br/><br/>1) it&#39;s also profitable for honest miners to sell PoW (e.g. in a marketplace), because there is now economic demand for PoW<br/><br/>2) relays can add a number of cheap defenses that makes spamming exponentially more difficult, even for spammers with botnets: for example, AUTH with PoW (one time per session), then post without PoW<br/> 2023-11-27T09:28:10Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsgvlyp7tdch0mfscyaj04na3ej85d9zlc4n4wd66jtymezjr6euaczyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgwcwqjx In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqszcwhyxsdslvjeqxvxnzae7llqwg3qms7t5l9jq4zuexjp4g8avpcpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtcuykjll'>nevent1q…kjll</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Proper link:<blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/note1qqqd3xhsuvz2xnvacr3rva3x85p0xt40rcxwxpvm4uk8xly4tc7s5m8g0d" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">note1qqq…8g0d</a></span> </div> Looking for testers or feedback on PoW WoW.<br/><br/>It's a protocol to buy PoW for any notes, or to sell hashrate.<br/><br/>The idea is: clients can start "shopping" for PoW for any event they create. They say how much PoW they want, how fast, and how much they're willing to pay. Providers mine the PoW and send it over together with an invoice. The PoW is packaged in such a way that it's only usable after the invoice is paid (e.g. the preimage is known). Long story short, after the client pays, they can "open" (unblind) the PoW, add it to their event, and broadcast it right away.<br/><br/>To see it in action: <video controls width="100%" class="max-h-[90vh] bg-neutral-300 dark:bg-zinc-700"><source src="https://lab.oak-node.net/powwow/uv/demo/powwow_20231123.mp4"></video><br/><br/>For details see <a href="https://oak-node.net/book/powwow/">https://oak-node.net/book/powwow/</a><br/><br/>Any feedback or questions, let me know! Thanks.<br/><br/>#pow #askstr </blockquote> 2023-11-27T09:07:06Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqszcwhyxsdslvjeqxvxnzae7llqwg3qms7t5l9jq4zuexjp4g8avpczyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgcq656e In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsqqqqy4aysw9n4dclrl286elrumhsdmgfkxwrzq69p9484cpjcvqcprfmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuam9d3kx7unyv4ezumn9wshser4hje'>nevent1q…4hje</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>24 bits PoW, posted on mobile, but mined somewhere else<br/><br/>note1qqqvzjsnln2zcvlww2wwfmemw3mtldegdgq7rylvf5rahghvktqslwx2ha 2023-11-27T09:00:21Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqs9u78l0g6rg2we202m336fzmua2xr4hcakjfkqanf4q32lwr0tszqzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmg7hy7na In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs82vwjhgx0kdh3rlh0savdqd2rxcmtxtc3dzmfzluvm9pkv4f8dygpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtcsr694y'>nevent1q…694y</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Which relays does getwired.app monitor? 2023-11-26T22:41:11Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqswk5feey420wugq37y8nj6j45x3x9wwd83r4xy6ytwd3pvwmcugcczyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgydsq5a In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs9sg20la6sxc554svhht6et30xqn7he6mx9x2thpkjc57c02teshcpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtcd8vm7s'>nevent1q…vm7s</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>No they don&#39;t, I looked for it too. 2023-11-26T22:31:56Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqs2f7hh3pf656cr8n685dnpc5r0amncvmsl6cepsqc2d9gy49he7cgzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmg2xf36v npub13zyg3zysfylqc6nwfgj2uvce5rtlck2u50vwtjhpn92wzyusprfsdl2rce that&#39;s a cool key 2023-11-26T22:26:42Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsynk7e3y3u3fmphfazpn720dt9umav96hx7r6u3yl0mstdddvj4lgzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgrnz8u5 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs0pnha2c863tc3n8r62ugtujaplhwr7g2mewu4x3j8p8ldrk6m6ygppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp08w7dl0'>nevent1q…7dl0</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><a href="https://shop.nitrokey.com/shop/product/nitrowall-nw678-480">https://shop.nitrokey.com/shop/product/nitrowall-nw678-480</a><br/><br/>OPNsense or OpenWrt. VPN.<br/><br/>Can customize hardware. Can be sent in tamper-evident packaging. Can be bought with Bitcoin. 2023-11-25T16:33:31Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsdtmfzqpnydejxeq77k4dvjpan90cqjplstm26c9rs2xhfcaf0u0szyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgdks8rx In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsp2rmyw73q9afdk720duea3vdvqwdrnan38gegruwgvpergj604mqppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0cuhmlf'>nevent1q…hmlf</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Is the DLEQ essentially a proof of payment?<br/><br/>And if yes, did I understand it right that any 3rd party can look at it and tell the sender, the receiver, and the amount? 2023-11-24T17:08:39Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqszr0qve7saswq0u260j9e8x9w4zcs7kyz7d9ctd4h9nuakfm76ayqzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmg685d9m In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsg4tdk4hyr6ud9c28xz9usdk553k8kuqkppyaaxv7kn2r0cc5nunsppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp09m58xa'>nevent1q…58xa</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Currently testing it with Gossip : <a href="https://github.com/ok300/gossip/tree/ok300-powwow-client">https://github.com/ok300/gossip/tree/ok300-powwow-client</a> (cc <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub1acg6thl5psv62405rljzkj8spesceyfz2c32udakc2ak0dmvfeyse9p35c" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>Mike Dilger ☑️</span> (<span class="italic">npub1acg…p35c</span>)</a></span>). This lets my Gossip client buy PoW for every event (note, repost, etc). Very rudimentary, but good enough as proof of concept.<br/><br/>There is also a WASM client, which I&#39;m testing on mobile: <a href="https://oak-node.net/demo/powwow/">https://oak-node.net/demo/powwow/</a><br/><br/>Best would be of course a native mobile app, but haven&#39;t found the time to do that yet. 2023-11-24T11:57:58Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsg4tdk4hyr6ud9c28xz9usdk553k8kuqkppyaaxv7kn2r0cc5nunszyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmghuy3jg In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqszyl8lulvjqte2ce3glgmyrjktnced2lj9ntrh58pxggc56z0qxpcppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0h6k20g'>nevent1q…k20g</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>There are ways to buy PoW from a marketplace of providers, all over nostr.<br/><blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/note1qqqd3xhsuvz2xnvacr3rva3x85p0xt40rcxwxpvm4uk8xly4tc7s5m8g0d" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">note1qqq…8g0d</a></span> </div> Looking for testers or feedback on PoW WoW.<br/><br/>It's a protocol to buy PoW for any notes, or to sell hashrate.<br/><br/>The idea is: clients can start "shopping" for PoW for any event they create. They say how much PoW they want, how fast, and how much they're willing to pay. Providers mine the PoW and send it over together with an invoice. The PoW is packaged in such a way that it's only usable after the invoice is paid (e.g. the preimage is known). Long story short, after the client pays, they can "open" (unblind) the PoW, add it to their event, and broadcast it right away.<br/><br/>To see it in action: <video controls width="100%" class="max-h-[90vh] bg-neutral-300 dark:bg-zinc-700"><source src="https://lab.oak-node.net/powwow/uv/demo/powwow_20231123.mp4"></video><br/><br/>For details see <a href="https://oak-node.net/book/powwow/">https://oak-node.net/book/powwow/</a><br/><br/>Any feedback or questions, let me know! Thanks.<br/><br/>#pow #askstr </blockquote> 2023-11-24T11:51:33Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqxcntcwxp9rfkwupc3kwcnr6qhn96h3ur8rqkd67trn0j24u0gzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgxyu8dz Looking for testers or feedback on PoW WoW.<br/><br/>It&#39;s a protocol to buy PoW for any notes, or to sell hashrate.<br/><br/>The idea is: clients can start &#34;shopping&#34; for PoW for any event they create. They say how much PoW they want, how fast, and how much they&#39;re willing to pay. Providers mine the PoW and send it over together with an invoice. The PoW is packaged in such a way that it&#39;s only usable after the invoice is paid (e.g. the preimage is known). Long story short, after the client pays, they can &#34;open&#34; (unblind) the PoW, add it to their event, and broadcast it right away.<br/><br/>To see it in action: <video controls width="100%" class="max-h-[90vh] bg-neutral-300 dark:bg-zinc-700"><source src="https://lab.oak-node.net/powwow/uv/demo/powwow_20231123.mp4"></video><br/><br/>For details see <a href="https://oak-node.net/book/powwow/">https://oak-node.net/book/powwow/</a><br/><br/>Any feedback or questions, let me know! Thanks.<br/><br/>#pow #askstr 2023-11-23T19:27:57Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqq8adpg8nn4mzvll5wvkmhzg6njnv6r0qdn58lucxsmwch0vg3czyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmge3netc Hey <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub1utx00neqgqln72j22kej3ux7803c2k986henvvha4thuwfkper4s7r50e8" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>utxo the webmaster 🧑‍💻</span> (<span class="italic">npub1utx…50e8</span>)</a></span>, is it possible to customize supported NIPs with relaying.io?<br/><br/>For example setting setting `created_at` limits with NIP-22. 2023-11-03T20:14:13Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqx9jh5gak4yhufu2n09r86rk2l00sj5dclu40m9l7kzrje02uszyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgl57fes In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqst5vjzh0e5x92q88nq76kvkjm55ldz0pmuq9eyrlrcdu83hetzyqgppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0reedly'>nevent1q…edly</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>I played with a prototype for this a while back: <a href="https://oak-node.net/doc/trunk/doc/ons/ons-4.md">https://oak-node.net/doc/trunk/doc/ons/ons-4.md</a><br/><br/>If there&#39;s any service provider interested, LMK and I could revive it.<br/><br/>Essentially comes down to:<br/><br/>- offer a LN address where customers can easily pay to: user_id@service_provider.com<br/>- the LNURL-pay endpoint creates invoices with the user ID in the description<br/>- in effect, any payment to that LN Address results in an invoice with the user&#39;s ID in the description<br/>- user can setup a recurring payment (or stop paying, or change the payment amount) anytime, using any recurring payment solution<br/>- service provider needs a simple piece of software that can lookup current user balance based on paid invoices with that User ID as description<br/>- the service can stop or resume, based on the user account balance 2023-10-28T10:06:09Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqq9c343a7vuj4jk7f5fseknuhdq4fqw77ea6adjnq5qmxndhqaszyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgtmrvsk In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsfrcpq95a5rzlfj8753a3mzlxfyxz5qpcpw2e0tu688yl0xk7nlaspz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsgscjlx'>nevent1q…cjlx</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>For the fully non-custodial version of this, see Oak Node.<br/><br/>Lets you have a bot on your Umbrel, who will listen for your Likes and react with a LN payment directly from your node.<br/><blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/note1qqqg4tylv66ecf3cdr7tudhvqq03furkggvaxh54kyf7f0n9mp6qzrlhaa" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">note1qqq…lhaa</a></span> </div> Oak Node v0.3.5 is now live in the Umbrel AppStore!<br/><br/>Lots of Nostr goodies, including:<br/><br/>- Shadowy LN Tips: the bot will send LN tips for every note you "like", directly from your Umbrel LN wallet to the note author's LN Address<br/>- NIP-65 support, to make sure the bot listens to your commands on the right relays, even as you change them<br/>- auto-reconnects to relays, npub support and more<br/><br/>The main focus was to provide a viable alternative to zaps that is simple, private, non-custodial, and works with every Nostr client.<br/><br/>Why publicize who you're sending sats to, how many, and when?<br/><br/>You can have your bot send "Shadowy LN Tips" to the profiles you want, for the notes you want, by just clicking the like button from your fav Nostr client. Your bot, running on Umbrel, will pick that up and send the sats.<br/><br/>No vanity zap counter, no privacy leaks on nostr. </blockquote> 2023-10-26T07:25:37Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqzqhz4fmkhxn7l3wpavzhpx3t637vghnm8twa8qtsuq7q5ufqczyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmg0kfwyr In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs0y3t6x0kth4gj6k8fggpjsyu28hzmpz8mhz2exwplnr7yd8nt6lsppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0pe2am2'>nevent1q…2am2</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Yep.<br/><br/>You&#39;re basically describing <a href="https://lab.oak-node.net/powpub">https://lab.oak-node.net/powpub</a><br/><br/>Anyone can run a provider (miner) to do exactly that and get paid for mining pubkeys. 2023-10-25T13:39:59Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqq8mtxl0mggpzzphgvpzku7ezmea5qq5atz49269z6wk6e5a02qzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmg9hdcca In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsdef3y624xr3ngrdmfd3qp8algjeqart09szlhu5myc0qcpxezeggppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp09tyv4h'>nevent1q…yv4h</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Wait until you see the zap metadata. 2023-10-18T17:22:00Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqpv3wmudf77qs03qyk0htvf5zm0c9eg97qtw3a3uqhrjf8w9dgzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgxp676f In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsvle0vdned4wll5yjravhmlad3f7lwm4tq402gss573urd49wykasppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0wlrqm3'>nevent1q…rqm3</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Already in the works, having a CLI version out soon. 2023-10-10T19:32:48Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqz9phkn39p830uedkghnhtxadv8k2fjurw94fpkumttrjraa3czyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgt2r7gr In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs8ff4v0hfywsjljsrdk4g5a2lq9y2lnl7xtw2fjzwxr72agk7jchgppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0jjn33s'>nevent1q…n33s</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Check out <a href="https://geyser.fund/?search=nostr&amp;sort=balance">https://geyser.fund/?search=nostr&amp;sort=balance</a><br/><br/>Each project has a LN Address as well 2023-10-04T14:07:44Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqqagqu57cy0f6jds78x2vtw72nxlvlslz9muzsfpl545n6nkhgzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmglk2xmw In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsgf9ssytcxvjf623wqndfvnts88s99v4qptumhnzcvxudew5ggj9cppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0uvrt2x'>nevent1q…rt2x</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>+1<br/><br/>Using Oak Node for recurring donations: <a href="https://apps.umbrel.com/app/oak-node">https://apps.umbrel.com/app/oak-node</a> 2023-10-04T14:05:17Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqq7evdc2fyffg6gtwh7ycsvwmulevfxkm27qkgpmmpjhv6mc3czyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmggdenm6 Hey <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub137c5pd8gmhhe0njtsgwjgunc5xjr2vmzvglkgqs5sjeh972gqqxqjak37w" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>The Fishcake🐶🐾</span> (<span class="italic">npub137c…k37w</span>)</a></span> I came across your note note18nhpu65c84s0pv0pvytwmynevzemlm0hvmp4gqyt8uv7z2a2umnsz9s9lp<br/><br/>Just recently pushed a release that fixes some NWC issues on Oak Node (keeps relay connection alive, choose most responsive one for NWC, etc)<br/><br/>I use it constantly with Amethyst and have tested with Damus too.<br/><br/>LMK if you have any issues! 2023-10-04T11:50:10Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqxwclv9zjgnt39sunkggrjj72v6satpvsyf3ymn7kyauxq4u6szyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgat7kyv In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs0c8259a2dhd8ngww8tx9h3m5pgce2uw7sezdarncpgjnpd52hz0cpypmhxue69uhkummnw3ezuetfde6kuer6wasku7nfvuh8xurpvdjj7wwvjuk'>nevent1q…vjuk</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>PoW will solve it.<br/><br/>Clients will eventually be able to aggregate PoW-weighted likes, replies, reposts, etc. 2023-10-02T12:30:01Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqy3mfp8r7cfrxe6gp2l35hcfwnd8c955xlca5y3lr3enk0hc8czyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmge85xeq In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsqrwcgfqqrk3calautq798mg8wveeuq967v46ua4lxj5qjfuxfe5gppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp08wsu2a'>nevent1q…su2a</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Would use with recurring payment that I can automate.<br/><br/>Is there a way to get a LNURL-pay endpoint that, if I pay to, is associated with my account?<br/><br/>Like a 1month_npub_here@eden.nostr.land LN Address? 2023-09-29T05:17:04Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqq5alc4v5hvf9ld2dxz5mf77qxxp2rjd2jwxjeuu4t9ag7e35gzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgrd8kms In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs0euh9fjyw76zhwvcm7cjshzc6ek5y8m4x4c7nvnajhagsznzgengppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0zlu6f4'>nevent1q…u6f4</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Yep works now 2023-09-29T04:53:24Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqqc8chk7g700fy7qap3gc2r3qn2a3qvucjhvrtwpmlctzjwg9qzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmg48mgk2 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsqqqqy4aysw9n4dclrl286elrumhsdmgfkxwrzq69p9484cpjcvqcppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0lqx6h8'>nevent1q…x6h8</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Btw your Strike LN Address isn&#39;t working, can&#39;t send you sats 2023-09-27T07:46:03Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqxpfgfle4pvx0h8988yauahga4lku5x5q0pj0ky6p7m5tkt9sgzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgx7fwxp In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsqqqqy4aysw9n4dclrl286elrumhsdmgfkxwrzq69p9484cpjcvqcppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0lqx6h8'>nevent1q…x6h8</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>What app did you use?<br/><br/>Mined on the phone, or you delegated the mining to another device but signed from the phone? 2023-09-27T07:44:10Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqylkfhgea9e36dgtdn3l7egaga3jz99x796ydzvcg9zjfutqxczyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgec62h0 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs29qxetg06e0evjfgckahzulxe3j46hlcuq7ujtskts3xmc3uax8sppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qnh8cv'>nevent1q…h8cv</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Try Oak Node on Umbrel. You can view and re-view the NWC QR as many times as you want.<br/><br/>AFAIK Alby shows only once the NWC secret (and QR code), when you create it. 2023-09-24T20:17:29Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqzjuh4xcf4wmstw97p7lucffrxjyhdmnr8f3e90fwsdj0prqzqzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgal46t2 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsqvmhhl8qvec0w3g9nv0vlxkk5sn8j0z8pga2wfsl08ztkf0h5g8sprfmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuam9d3kx7unyv4ezumn9wshsdlw37t'>nevent1q…w37t</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>We just need a way to let clients easily buy some of this cheap computing power to add PoW to their notes. 2023-09-18T12:20:04Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqqwwz4hqx2m5n947qhffr7ylmt8stwduyauhvxm62f6jmcld4qzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgtd9gs5 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqspydgcmgek9w6ek3t683sthuj7jv0ml6g85crrdg857ueuzua47rqppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0xne9z7'>nevent1q…e9z7</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Mobile clients are limited in how much PoW they can mine.<br/><br/>No simple solution yet for them to delegate PoW to 3rd party.<br/><br/>I&#39;m working on a solution for that. Tentative spec: <a href="https://oak-node.net/file?name=doc/ons/ons-2.md&amp;ci=trunk">https://oak-node.net/file?name=doc/ons/ons-2.md&amp;ci=trunk</a> 2023-09-18T12:06:13Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqp8e3yrp0eu4720r0z6hhqv7naqy0hpunm2vrpzzc83ckjk7aczyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgukgltr In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsrguxw220w2fveelewnh6slxn3auavmv0wlhd5xhgqpqrpv0rkvcqpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtcd7kktk'>nevent1q…kktk</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Can confirm 2023-09-17T20:32:24Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqq8twaau4480t6naq7ehdk84u7ggakyfe2qu6tk4gfvlrm3j3fgzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmg3shhyk In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqst9497pe7t6mmfja3tjwp9pfrxgld48tk8m9kskcfk36r95yn0q0cpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtc45k4fl'>nevent1q…k4fl</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Corrigido! Obrigado 2023-09-17T17:27:56Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqzmk0k6cf0z39mtcw2kfy8k9amaa20x39ycahkvxfkf425ynqszyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmga3x9r9 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsx5d87u8xgx2v9r4mmxlcwspqesl4az8f23e38ka2qf9l8wgkc46spzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtc6aym7z'>nevent1q…ym7z</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>True. But they need extra logic that checks if a relay is misbehaving in the first place. 2023-09-17T14:13:19Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqq9y5wmu4r8dt604raf73qxvrqwxfj73l2j38wqjqyhjhf7ehdszyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmghgju40 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsqqq8vl8893wj438cmx6afvgu4t3qafz2dmaynd8gjwjruhz3yrnqpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtcjr09wv'>nevent1q…09wv</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>cc <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub1acg6thl5psv62405rljzkj8spesceyfz2c32udakc2ak0dmvfeyse9p35c" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>Mike Dilger ☑️</span> (<span class="italic">npub1acg…p35c</span>)</a></span> 2023-09-17T09:59:59Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqq8vl8893wj438cmx6afvgu4t3qafz2dmaynd8gjwjruhz3yrnqzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmg4zk8ng In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsxrmcxm5k5q0ad4l2kmsay5ucjje24rsjgufkk6n9shv22ld9hxcgpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtc4a005g'>nevent1q…005g</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>I think he means relays who don&#39;t play by the rules.<br/><br/>A malicious relay coud:<br/>- send the same message(s) multiple times<br/>- send extra messages that don&#39;t match the filters<br/>- do this both for stored events (pre EOSE) and for streamed events (post EOSE)<br/><br/>IMO its a viable attack vector, because clients have less resources so by doing the above, a relay could DoS a client.<br/><br/>Even if unexpected events are &#34;filtered out&#34; by the client before showing them to the user, the client still presumably verifies they&#39;re valid events, and signature verification is quite intense. So unexpected large events are also an attack vector, they can hit the client CPU hard.<br/><br/>Nostr SDKs used in clients could defend against most of this by<br/>- only returning events that match the subscription filters<br/>- only validating if an event is valid (signature) if the above is true<br/>- not processing and returning events that have already been seen before (much harder to do)<br/><br/>cc <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub1drvpzev3syqt0kjrls50050uzf25gehpz9vgdw08hvex7e0vgfeq0eseet" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>Yuki Kishimoto</span> (<span class="italic">npub1drv…seet</span>)</a></span><br/><br/>Probably not a concern now, because Nostr is small.<br/><br/>(Another defence for clients is to use a semi-trusted relay aggregator like Wine or caching service like Primal) 2023-09-17T09:57:33Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqq8fh5l7y340mugthf8hhthszkx8weg0d036uqx8uzq2l2044yszyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgzuz7rm In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs8txwc5ersxwfk3kz83ea8h8cm3p5mxjphlk5vqvg3pgpdqcuhp0cpypmhxue69uhkummnw3ezuetfde6kuer6wasku7nfvuh8xurpvdjj7msvm0h'>nevent1q…vm0h</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Check out NIP-10, it&#39;s written exactly to explain this. 2023-09-17T09:07:07Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqx2vepv77k305x2523s79s4szg29c67gfmtjlkawcj38n3jxrszyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmghr38hn In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsfrlxhfxkdk89psyecwp8djq33nekdfxh580zegkrk9hduey3a8pcppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0vfkg6f'>nevent1q…kg6f</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>cashu-lnurl looks like a quick and simple way to do offline receive. Though you have to trust the provider. And you get the sats as cashus.<br/><br/>Am I right? 2023-09-17T08:57:59Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqzwfrye3vgv4x7ps99mwe9x08kltrnesq078429qn2va2xy24gzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgrp6hkq The Gossip client is shaping up!<br/><br/>Just started using it again after a couple of months and:<br/>- now it has proper support for DMs<br/>- UI is much faster, almost instant<br/>- UI is much slicker<br/><br/>It may just be the best desktop Nostr client yet 🤔 2023-09-17T08:50:17Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqyny0mp8d54yky6wlmzgc9qru3gye3vxhf75y27k3yn4davqkszyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmglg6jxe In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs8v68dh3mc3355dphtav6jckgrj70lqahvdqkqe54nxkpjqmf6xzgpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtc3m4gfq'>nevent1q…4gfq</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Perfect! Will DM. 2023-09-16T09:01:27Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqqnmvgmg0e9cueg2twvg8jk6j9qtzqk9cfntwl05vs2d6ah0uczyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgkp2s4q In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsvrhwkecdxz74f9kv7v0hpfm9w4qhyv9mqcc9j7hr497p5k70d6egppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp06z8uf8'>nevent1q…8uf8</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>What hardware specs? Looking into CLN too. 2023-09-16T06:49:08Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqq3fp4hufnkd7fatscyl6pz920em246u698n4rvszmm4v05ylgzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgr35s8l In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsqqqqqqqqphkjszsj4c23cj4hwa29plk56kw2zyzyr0gx054ddrnqpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtc32dfr6'>nevent1q…dfr6</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>40 bits, that&#39;s awesome!<br/><br/>Those gaming PCs are starting to look quite appealing now :)<br/><br/>Would you be interested to help me test something out? It involves nostr, PoW, Rust and generally many CPU cores. 2023-09-16T06:47:45Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqzxlupwvs2jul75r8glrgtl3ppjtumujk3sk9fywuhap5grkfgzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgu473l7 <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub1xnf02f60r9v0e5kty33a404dm79zr7z2eepyrk5gsq3m7pwvsz2sazlpr5" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>ZEUS</span> (<span class="italic">npub1xnf…lpr5</span>)</a></span> wen NWC?<br/><br/>A bunch of nostriches are already making noise about it:<br/><blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/note1vt0huymywhlwwl08y3rn8xta95cjlxgd5u6eatqup5x54ncd2t3s40ps77" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">note1vt0…ps77</a></span><br/> </div> Do you think in support Nostr Wallet Connect in Zeus? Umbrel already have NWC.<br/>I'm able to connect using tailscale and LNC but I experience connections problems sometimes. Maybe with NWC do not have these connections problems? </blockquote>nostr:note1s6shzsna6m2yrr6rgvldz88erx004zytn2gnayccv45vedj6ntrq5k5yjn<blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/note1vc4mctnprancd4surtmp0pg0qcwh3ggd7kaxl038aw8lz4ml9uesrdxp8n" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">note1vc4…xp8n</a></span> </div> I haven't tried Mutiny Wallet yet. I do use Phoenix, but not for zapping, mostly just for collecting DCA funds. I am still using the custodial Alby + Zeus combo for zapping, similar to what you have. Just looking around I think there will be a lot more solutions soon, I'm looking forward to Green from <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub1jg552aulj07skd6e7y2hu0vl5g8nl5jvfw8jhn6jpjk0vjd0waksvl6n8n" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>Blockstream</span> (<span class="italic">npub1jg5…6n8n</span>)</a></span> adding lightning support, that will finally push me over the edge to buy a Jade 😂<br/><br/>Mutiny is better for zaps 💯 It supports NWC <a href="https://github.com/getAlby/nostr-wallet-connect">https://github.com/getAlby/nostr-wallet-connect</a> It is also beta, so beware dragons 🐉 Follow <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub1t0nyg64g5vwprva52wlcmt7fkdr07v5dr7s35raq9g0xgc0k4xcsedjgqv" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>Deleted Account</span> (<span class="italic">npub1t0n…jgqv</span>)</a></span> to stay up to date!<br/><br/>Phoenix is not good for zaps, no NWC. As a self custody wallet for any other use, I think it is great! I use it to collect DCA payments, and have processed a lot of other transactions, seems quite reliable. </blockquote> 2023-09-16T05:31:00Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqyd3lgcl2ur7lf8vtq4l6mlg0cdf7gu0swze0kyath7ks2lwkszyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgamshzu In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs2tprz2ufdfy58scwfu53hd3ezdl7uvc28x4vkcs9fuqsv93azgqsppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0698wy0'>nevent1q…8wy0</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>See <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub1wxl6njlcgygduct7jkgzrvyvd9fylj4pqvll6p32h59wyetm5fxqjchcan" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>zapplepay</span> (<span class="italic">npub1wxl…hcan</span>)</a></span> and<blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/note1qqq8pgp23k394cukg4w9mgfjh54z9jhyjukqan582rkks36rhs5s620vev" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">note1qqq…0vev</a></span> </div> Oak Node has had Shadowy LN Tips since 6 months or so: <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/note1qqqg4tylv66ecf3cdr7tudhvqq03furkggvaxh54kyf7f0n9mp6qzrlhaa" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">note1qqq…lhaa</a></span><br/><br/>Lets you "zap" any note by simply liking it. Works from any Nostr client. Sats sent non-custodially, from your own Umbrel. </blockquote> 2023-07-07T15:40:12Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqzl8yaxckg5z5k33uxh30rnpqq2kewhhfu9hqydeemwv32u2fszyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmggfaprc In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqstve2c0yw02mp3m355tld2affevyynuldtzmkxwm5nk82m3mmkm8cpremhxue69uhkummnw3ez6ur4vgh8wetvd3hhyer9wghxuet59u8chsfg'>nevent1q…hsfg</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Quick, get the Nostr CEO on the line! 2023-07-07T15:39:14Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqq84d9zhdk8cdx3jur5ckeycy9z4rv3vq5eztqscy84evt8kmxqzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmg3la0fc <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub1u8lnhlw5usp3t9vmpz60ejpyt649z33hu82wc2hpv6m5xdqmuxhs46turz" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>benthecarman</span> (<span class="italic">npub1u8l…turz</span>)</a></span> <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub1wxl6njlcgygduct7jkgzrvyvd9fylj4pqvll6p32h59wyetm5fxqjchcan" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>zapplepay</span> (<span class="italic">npub1wxl…hcan</span>)</a></span><br/><br/>Great minds think alike ;)<br/><blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/note1qqq8pgp23k394cukg4w9mgfjh54z9jhyjukqan582rkks36rhs5s620vev" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">note1qqq…0vev</a></span> </div> Oak Node has had Shadowy LN Tips since 6 months or so: <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/note1qqqg4tylv66ecf3cdr7tudhvqq03furkggvaxh54kyf7f0n9mp6qzrlhaa" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">note1qqq…lhaa</a></span><br/><br/>Lets you "zap" any note by simply liking it. Works from any Nostr client. Sats sent non-custodially, from your own Umbrel. </blockquote> 2023-07-07T15:38:09Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqzdepytpa7d4q30e5k59gyrl7ayuq78h0u9le7vch5u7ldhpsczyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmg87q2m6 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsz3yuudjcxxcxzrvrsk56ljt93c4zdmxpzfpf6uu4cvusqwtz6v0sppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0hjj7np'>nevent1q…j7np</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Is there such a thing as &#34;proof of payment&#34; in cashu, like the preimage is for a LN invoice?<br/><br/>As in a way to prove to 3rd parties that a certain (cashu invoice?) was settled? 2023-06-30T18:46:45Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqx09g3ykajldfangtr2x50zp7g70snksr9xre6l2qv3muatgcczyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgnf4qxy In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsy273nptkh4d03y6k9yx2an00t0qa0tzl7dzyxawr7tf5tk0j74asppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0xagh6f'>nevent1q…gh6f</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><a href="https://github.com/mikedilger/gossip/">https://github.com/mikedilger/gossip/</a> 2023-06-29T09:32:52Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqxcesum48xfqekqnv4xrs2v3qhd4yuqeh9f46p6pje3armjwgszyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgrxarud In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsgp9nxpwqex2x9nevxylaxypt8kselvsl6tyvxlx73r4x6aa7esfsppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp02ur4wq'>nevent1q…r4wq</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>No way to tell if they&#39;re real or fake tho 2023-06-29T08:48:33Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqp2kntdzunzc7ktj565yyq6jup6x42zrp9amzh2cfrj7qx4u2gzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgw95zuh In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsw6zc2u0gsyka5zktva2lty5v8ejqafpzhqc274cjhhcmkyc5q4wcppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0lnyrsj'>nevent1q…yrsj</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><a href="https://oak-node.net/wiki?name=demo-powpub-client">https://oak-node.net/wiki?name=demo-powpub-client</a> 2023-06-29T08:45:57Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqxv9ak4zrhjxxc67y7nn6pq97e3kue34cx6730p0uv4e3l9z6qzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgsa2fxm In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs9a0hrlchcsscn4gydq3lwvvvklw6w07vt796cmw044d5mk9psr6cpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsawzpmu'>nevent1q…zpmu</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>The NIP has an example command with curl:<br/><br/>curl -H &#34;Accept: application/nostr+json&#34; <a href="https://eden.nostr.land">https://eden.nostr.land</a><br/><br/>If the client says it accepts content of type `application/nostr+json`, seems reasonable to expect the relay should respond with exactly that content type header. 2023-06-28T21:24:10Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqq9fjsr2pxds99pty6g4wnefpgfcpahrfyfm3m7gsuxnd6yy3rczyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmghjpy9m In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsvevdcl0xykg6ymadm5wkg65es5q423tp77pgkdhs6znnuvdd7e9spremhxue69uhkummnw3ez6ur4vgh8wetvd3hhyer9wghxuet59uv4yyp4'>nevent1q…yyp4</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Yes 2023-06-28T21:15:09Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqpxz5wt066h5plxjxqpwpet4tq6j9d2dxva9psdp0fhe3w480czyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmg5r58zu In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsx9dd6wga2scvtz06w40neanvavf6z27kn700jayl94k5qtzu5cxcppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0swy54w'>nevent1q…y54w</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/note1qqqxpda7vkssnf82m3wypx9qqdsw36pwch73ychnh7ykk59nh4lsex5rdy" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">note1qqq…5rdy</a></span> </div> Is your app up and running? It has to be online to receive payments, with the Breez SDK initialized and running. </blockquote> 2023-06-28T21:13:14Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqrqk7lxtggf5n4dchzqnzsqxc8gaqhvtlgjvtemlztt2zem6lczyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgx02en5 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs9ngxhrt05gfuz4rlaq66dkj5kwnjhucdrcsyxf4r8tf2y7cya4rsppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0jegnnd'>nevent1q…gnnd</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Is your app up and running? It has to be online to receive payments, with the Breez SDK initialized and running. 2023-06-28T21:11:45Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqy4z2g74tvegpxh2m02r777vp8z7k6r4dhuz7fqfssuqjf7wcgzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgm8hmau In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs28rfvc0hehmckx90alxfdl99atxwwzksp6zzsfjnycrzseda0vwcppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0k2hmsx'>nevent1q…hmsx</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Famous last words 2023-06-26T14:57:21Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqq925e6aeyhggvdzg8jkde4khnasyk294quknqwrnnwck3pp22gzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgtu4zmj In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsqqqzr3sz5dd043u9qyntrtmh4hmxnu5vxg2hmcrgh7ntaqkw9vpgppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0p07ker'>nevent1q…7ker</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>cc <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub1ccsfkkfk46jsjtn80cup0vjn98slkheqd65t36tut822kddvdcxqxjdc57" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>beautyon</span> (<span class="italic">npub1ccs…dc57</span>)</a></span> 2023-06-26T14:55:31Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqzr3sz5dd043u9qyntrtmh4hmxnu5vxg2hmcrgh7ntaqkw9vpgzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgs8umdw In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsyru00jf0gkwgnezw2naptwttduzjuwskvcxhhtj9ed9qsflqt20sppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp087ljwc'>nevent1q…ljwc</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Or azteco, that&#39;s exactly what they&#39;re offering.<br/><br/>Could be easier with azteco, because you&#39;re just redeeming a voucher, you&#39;re not touching any exchange. 2023-06-26T14:55:11Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqq9e9w0c7nj33v0waf0m33cst5v9gspf6g9qegxck3c2hjsa5jszyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgvcjaf0 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsywlgkvymy5mmrw3l0hhzggwefpnh25e4g7yxct5usf0ef60y5zfsppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0tmzugf'>nevent1q…zugf</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Here&#39;s a scenario: a service provider lets you run a Nostr bot. It has its own keys, but it can watch for events of your main Nostr keys and react to them with configurable &#34;if this then that&#34; rules.<br/><br/>For example, &#34;if I reply with a smiley face :) to a note from my main account, then bot will send 1000 sats to the author of that note&#34;<br/><br/>&#34;If I reply with two smileys, send 10k sats&#34;<br/><br/>&#34;If I like and repost a note =&gt; send 50k sats&#34;<br/><br/>Will the fruit company be able to ban smiley replies? Reposts? Likes? 2023-06-26T13:57:35Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqyx98pw0w2ajdsht9s4rulctpv3nl3lkau8luavgv5qm774ecgzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmg593lpm In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsypfg7j0kctfvgnzwg9eexlscsv36n4tztmjzrsf7n5du0c7stcxgppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp06uupay'>nevent1q…upay</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Sure they can try.<br/><br/>But it ain&#39;t gonna work.<br/><blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/note1qqqttgzdk8qm6m68ezzv59efavkuqj0xscgtxmtz2hsg0qxfg6aqtvqrag" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">note1qqq…qrag</a></span> </div> Not when actions and events can have multiple, unknown meanings.<br/><br/>A like in the app can cause your bot to transfer 10k sats, in the background, to the note author.<br/><br/>Repost + like combo could mean "send 50k sats".<br/><br/>Replying with "Love it, your art has inspired me to grow 100x" could be code-word for telling the bot to send 100k sats.<br/><br/>Etc etc<br/><br/>Its already happening, just in small scales. Apple cannot ban "likes" or cryptic replies that *might* trigger a remote payment.<br/> </blockquote> 2023-06-26T13:47:58Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqylc23m9yzsja3n0kljg7fxayqhfs2sv24sjz7w7el4d30f2hgzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgcxl8e9 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs87lpxslyzu5wylx5k8t2xhanqrtxjwqgvzqtda0d58dvtv722v4cppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0zprmas'>nevent1q…rmas</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Then <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub1getal6ykt05fsz5nqu4uld09nfj3y3qxmv8crys4aeut53unfvlqr80nfm" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>Alby</span> (<span class="italic">npub1get…0nfm</span>)</a></span> ser, why u spreading fake news?<br/><br/>&#34;Alby is the first to bring #1tapzap experience to Nostur&#34;<br/><br/>I guess Alby might be the first to bring the proprietary integration. But there are already several other services exposing pure NWC. 2023-06-26T13:43:41Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqq9mezdrlulf6mw9kw9j3sya942adyf342k55w4dp6mqazn3saczyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgk8gnu7 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsqk62pwt0rzms0dy9cn0mndwlzsjngry65l80qw0wc3wcwceu9dkcpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhskfu0tu'>nevent1q…u0tu</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/note1qqqttgzdk8qm6m68ezzv59efavkuqj0xscgtxmtz2hsg0qxfg6aqtvqrag" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">note1qqq…qrag</a></span> </div> Not when actions and events can have multiple, unknown meanings.<br/><br/>A like in the app can cause your bot to transfer 10k sats, in the background, to the note author.<br/><br/>Repost + like combo could mean "send 50k sats".<br/><br/>Replying with "Love it, your art has inspired me to grow 100x" could be code-word for telling the bot to send 100k sats.<br/><br/>Etc etc<br/><br/>Its already happening, just in small scales. Apple cannot ban "likes" or cryptic replies that *might* trigger a remote payment.<br/> </blockquote> 2023-06-25T13:00:43Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqq88q3n7jyy5l9qtdjda4979jsxmkmffwp262jdfkd4z8exsazqzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgv5fpg0 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsqqqxkwphn7mepm8w68sjjqnxx72takex7tymqdzzhr9mduxax8qgppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp03gf2fq'>nevent1q…f2fq</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>JohnOnAir 2023-06-25T09:35:01Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqxkwphn7mepm8w68sjjqnxx72takex7tymqdzzhr9mduxax8qgzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgdk3q53 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs944vzeq87r0afhzda5k8twukf4n7pcz5cja0k40es0yk47xu0ryspzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtc9hmt7u'>nevent1q…mt7u</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>JohnOnchain -&gt; JohnOnCast 2023-06-25T09:34:48Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqyrutlrett6mqjyutuqe6r4new8u9sa7yuvj6q2weg4fgvklwgzyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmg388uj5 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs9anpfv7sa5n49tcdk3nrpws5xw48z8rtmy0fl4n6ykd89rve9xzqpremhxue69uhkummnw3ez6ur4vgh8wetvd3hhyer9wghxuet59uuyd3nz'>nevent1q…d3nz</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>I&#39;m surprised people expect zaps to be the default.<br/><br/>Zaps are less private, less secure, more centralized and more confusing to newbies than plain LN.<br/><br/>The one thing it got right is the catchy name. 2023-06-24T21:39:24Z https://nostr.ae/nevent1qqsqqqqmdz8sz9fz74p90eppv8639ra42h04j3994g5pjma04k2x3aczyqfrg4nctmncz463c2qqfekw7sucuyjkl99f8063lyqp3c52ejlmgtuj48g In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs0m7qlwm3dgje82fw7mf29ez4dataf63fpj4fradzkst9uqser0vqppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp07aap05'>nevent1q…ap05</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>nprofile encodes pubkey + recommended relays in bech32<br/><br/>npub encodes only the pubkey 2023-06-24T17:10:18Z