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      <title type="html">📅 Original date posted:2018-01-09 📝 Original message:&amp;gt; ...</title>
    
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      In reply to &lt;a href=&#39;/nevent1qqsvcu990sj76cy2j0equzv9l0ttrh08clr96lu2c60nyf05d5sv3gsht7qms&#39;&gt;nevent1q…7qms&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;_________________________&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;📅 Original date posted:2018-01-09&lt;br/&gt;📝 Original message:&amp;gt; Trezor&amp;#39;s &amp;#34;plausible deniability&amp;#34; scheme could very well result in you going to&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; jail for lying to border security, because it&amp;#39;s so easy for them to simply&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; brute force alternate passwords based on your seeds. With that, they have proof&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; that you lied to customs, a serious offense.&lt;br/&gt;The passphrase scheme as I understand it allows a maximum of 50 &lt;br/&gt;characters to be used.  Surely even with the HD seed, that search space &lt;br/&gt;is too large to brute force.  Or is there a weakness in the scheme I &lt;br/&gt;haven&amp;#39;t clocked?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;On 09/01/18 01:13, Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev wrote:&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; On Mon, Jan 08, 2018 at 07:40:38PM -0500, Rhavar via bitcoin-dev wrote:&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I think you&amp;#39;re under-appreciating how useful the &amp;#34;plausible deniability&amp;#34;. Someone I know was (solo) traveling to the United States when a border agent asked her to unlocked her phone; thumbed through her apps, ended up finding tinder and went through all her recent conversations to make sure she wasn&amp;#39;t involved in any &amp;#34;pay for sex things&amp;#34;.&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; In the same light, I travel frequently and constantly have my trezor on me. If I am asked to unlock it, I will have no problems doing so (as refusal will no doubt lead to deportation) and showing my personal wallet (which sadly hasn&amp;#39;t had much use since fees became ridiculous).&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; Trezor&amp;#39;s &amp;#34;plausible deniability&amp;#34; scheme could very well result in you going to&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; jail for lying to border security, because it&amp;#39;s so easy for them to simply&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; brute force alternate passwords based on your seeds. With that, they have proof&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; that you lied to customs, a serious offense.&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; I would strongly advise you not to use it in that situation.&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; _______________________________________________&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; bitcoin-dev mailing list&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&#34;https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev&#34;&gt;https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;-------------- next part --------------&lt;br/&gt;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&lt;br/&gt;URL: &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20180109/10f78fce/attachment-0001.html&amp;gt&#34;&gt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20180109/10f78fce/attachment-0001.html&amp;gt&lt;/a&gt;;
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