{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","author_name":"npub1f2nvlx49er5c7sqa43src6ssyp6snd4qwvtkwm5avc2l84cs84esecrwet","author_url":"https://nostr.ae/npub1f2nvlx49er5c7sqa43src6ssyp6snd4qwvtkwm5avc2l84cs84esecrwet","provider_name":"njump","provider_url":"https://nostr.ae","html":"📅 Original date posted:2014-04-09\n📝 Original message:On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Justus Ranvier \u003cjustusranvier at gmail.com\u003e wrote:\n\u003e Anyone reading the archives of the list will see about triple the\n\u003e number of people independently confirming the resource usage problem\n\u003e than they will see denying it, so I'm not particularly worried.\n\nThe list has open membership, there is no particular qualification or\nbackground required to post here. Optimal use of an information source\nrequires critical reading and understanding the limitations of the\nmedium. Counting comments is usually not a great way to assess\ntechnical considerations on an open public forum.  Doubly so because\nthose comments were not actually talking about the same thing I am\ntalking about.\n\nExisting implementations are inefficient in many known ways (and, no\ndoubt, some unknown ones). This list is about developing protocol and\nimplementations including improving their efficiency.  When talking\nabout incentives the costs you need to consider are the costs of the\nbest realistic option.  As far as I know there is no doubt from anyone\ntechnically experienced that under the current network rules full\nnodes can be operated with vastly less resources than current\nimplementations use, it's just a question of the relatively modest\nimplementation improvements.\n\nWhen you argue that Bitcoin doesn't have the right incentives (and\nthus something??) I retort that the actual resource _requirements_ are\nfor the protocol very low. I gave specific example numbers to enable\ncorrection or clarification if I've said something wrong or\ncontroversial. Pointing out that existing implementations are not that\ncurrently as efficient as the underlying requirements and that some\nlarge number of users do not like the efficiency of existing\nimplementations doesn't tell me anything I disagree with or didn't\nalready know. Whats being discussed around here contributes to\nprioritizing improvements over the existing implementations.\n\nI hope this clarifies something."}