{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","author_name":"npub1fx98zxt3lzspjs5f4msr0fxysx5euucm29ghysryju7vpc9j0jzqtcl2d8","author_url":"https://nostr.ae/npub1fx98zxt3lzspjs5f4msr0fxysx5euucm29ghysryju7vpc9j0jzqtcl2d8","provider_name":"njump","provider_url":"https://nostr.ae","html":"📅 Original date posted:2015-07-28\n📝 Original message:On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 12:50 AM, Tom Harding \u003ctomh at thinlink.com\u003e wrote:\n\u003e On 7/24/2015 2:24 AM, Jorge Timón wrote:\n\u003e\n\u003e\u003e Regarding \"increasing the exchange rate\" it would be really nice to\n\u003e\u003e just push a button and double bitcoin's price just before the next\n\u003e\u003e subsidy halving, but unfortunately that's something out of our control.\n\u003e\n\u003e Jorge, right now, from the activity on github, you are working at least\n\u003e as hard as anyone else, probably harder.\n\nMy level of contributions are irrelevant to this discussion. But\nstill, I feel I should clarify some of the metrics you are looking to.\nMost of my contributions so far are code refactors (with a small\nchange on the command-line options and a small optimization here and\nthere). This type of changes is usually better done incrementally to\nbe less risky and disruptive (this is specially important for\nconsensus-related code), and that makes my total commit count\nunusually high, even when some people have contributed more in new\nfunctionality than me in a single commit.\nAlso code movements (often required as part of these refactors)\nproduce unusually high total diff counts even when they require little\nless than copy and paste (once you know what you want to move and\nwhere, of course).\nIf I didn't thought this work is extremely important in the long term\n(among other things, to make the code more accessible to new\nreviewers/developers) I wouldn't be doing it, but you can't just\ncompare contributions counting commits or lines changed, that's not\nhow it works.\nGithub may say that I'm #10 with 96 commits / 9,371 ++ / 8,962 --, but\nit's obvious to me that, say, gmaxwell #13 with 71 commits / 807 ++ /\n707 -- has done a lot more for Bitcoin Core than I have.\nEven if it was true that I'm the person currently coding more for\nBitcoin Core, I wouldn't write any of that if I had no hope of getting\nreview, so review is certain sense much more important than coding.\n\n\u003e Why?  Why, if not to make\n\u003e bitcoin more valuable?\n\nWho cares?\nIf my work is good for the software, my motivations are irrelevant. If\nI accidentally PR a bug, my motivations are again: the bug should not\nbe accepted no matter how pure and noble my intentions are.\nBut, no, making Bitcoin's price (no offense taken, but there's an\nspanish say that goes like this \"Sólo un necio confunde valor y\nprecio\" which translates to \"Only a fool confuses value and price\")\nrise is not one of my main motivations.\nI'm much more concerned about the long term success of the currency\n(for which turnover is a much more interesting metric than market cap\nIMO) and about learning a technology that I believe will revolutionize\nthe world, but maybe you don't believe me. There's a Bitcoin incentive\nas part of my Blockstream's contract, so I have a financial incentive\nfor Bitcoin's price to increase, but, in fact, when I started\ncontributing to bitcoin core my bitcoin holdings where extremely low.\nIt bothers me that so many people seem to assume that Bitcoin\ndevelopers are also hardcore currency speculators and are also good at\nit (I can say Bitcoin has teach me that I'm a terrible day-trader\nmyself).\nThere's many reasons to contribute to Bitcoin core and none of them\nare relevant to this discussion.\n\n\u003e Even apart from the convenience/curse of real-time exchange markets,\n\u003e just with an abstract definition of \"value,\" isn't that exactly what a\n\u003e developer can influence, if not \"control?\"\n\nThe fact is that there's no \"bitcoin developer dance\" that makes it\nrain and also raises bitcoin's market price 100 usd. And suggesting\n\"rising the price\" as a solution to any problem just cannot be\nconsidered a serious proposal.\nNo, we can't just ACK a \"double the price\" PR when the next halving comes.\n\n\u003e Isn't figuring out ways to increase the value of bitcoin what we are doing?\n\nIf that's what you're doing as a currency speculator, that's fine.\nIt's just off-topic to this list.\nAnd, no, that's not \"what I am doing\" as a software developer.\nI want the system to improve, like that \"Jessie J\" singer said, forget\nabout the priceeeeeeeeee, yeah."}