{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","author_name":"npub1tjephawh7fdf6358jufuh5eyxwauzrjqa7qn50pglee4tayc2ntqcjtl6r","author_url":"https://nostr.ae/npub1tjephawh7fdf6358jufuh5eyxwauzrjqa7qn50pglee4tayc2ntqcjtl6r","provider_name":"njump","provider_url":"https://nostr.ae","html":"📅 Original date posted:2015-08-07\n📝 Original message:On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Gavin Andresen \u003cgavinandresen at gmail.com\u003e\nwrote:\n\n\u003e On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Pieter Wuille \u003cpieter.wuille at gmail.com\u003e\n\u003e wrote:\n\u003e\n\u003e\u003e I guess my question (and perhaps that's what Jorge is after): do you feel\n\u003e\u003e that blocks should be increased in response to (or for fear of) such a\n\u003e\u003e scenario.\n\u003e\u003e\n\u003e\n\u003e I think there are multiple reasons to raise the maximum block size, and\n\u003e yes, fear of Bad Things Happening as we run up against the 1MB limit is one\n\u003e of the reasons.\n\u003e\n\u003e I take the opinion of smart engineers who actually do resource planning\n\u003e and have seen what happens when networks run out of capacity very seriously.\n\u003e\n\nThis is a fundamental disagreement then. I believe that the demand is\ninfinite if you don't set a fee minimum (and I don't think we should), and\nit just takes time for the market to find a way to fill whatever is\navailable - the rest goes into off-chain systems anyway. You will run out\nof capacity at any size, and acting out of fear of that reality does not\nimprove the system. Whatever size blocks are actually produced, I believe\nthe result will either be something people consider too small to be\ncompetitive (\"you mean Bitcoin can only do 24 transactions per second?\"\nsounds almost the same as \"you mean Bitcoin can only do 3 transactions per\nsecond?\"), or something that is very centralized in practice, and likely\nboth.\n\n\n\u003e And if so, if that is a reason for increase now, won't it be a reason for\n\u003e\u003e an increase later as well? It is my impression that your answer is yes,\n\u003e\u003e that this is why you want to increase the block size quickly and\n\u003e\u003e significantly, but correct me if I'm wrong.\n\u003e\u003e\n\u003e\n\u003e Sure, it might be a reason for an increase later. Here's my message to\n\u003e in-the-future Bitcoin engineers:  you should consider raising the maximum\n\u003e block size if needed and you think the benefits of doing so (like increased\n\u003e adoption or lower transaction fees or increased reliability) outweigh the\n\u003e costs (like higher operating costs for full-nodes or the disruption caused\n\u003e by ANY consensus rule change).\n\u003e\n\nIn general that sounds reasonable, but it's a dangerous precedent to make\ntechnical decisions based on a fear of change of economics...\n\n-- \nPieter\n-------------- next part --------------\nAn HTML attachment was scrubbed...\nURL: \u003chttp://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150807/8322a671/attachment.html\u003e"}