{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","author_name":"npub1jkdfcglr59lwnhek94l393g0hhhaj0v5yzz3n5s3p0r9u0576sgs7373ck","author_url":"https://nostr.ae/npub1jkdfcglr59lwnhek94l393g0hhhaj0v5yzz3n5s3p0r9u0576sgs7373ck","provider_name":"njump","provider_url":"https://nostr.ae","html":"📅 Original date posted:2015-08-05\n📝 Original message:-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----\nHash: SHA512\n\n\n\nOn 4 August 2015 11:12:36 PM AEST, Gavin Andresen via bitcoin-dev \u003cbitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org\u003e wrote:\n\u003eOn Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Pieter Wuille via bitcoin-dev \u003c\n\u003ebitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org\u003e wrote:\n\u003e\n\u003e\u003e I would say that things already demonstrately got terrible. The\n\u003emining\n\u003e\u003e landscape is very centralized, with apparently a majority depending\n\u003eon\n\u003e\u003e agreements to trust each other's announced blocks without validation.\n\u003e\u003e\n\u003eAnd that is a problem... why?\n\nWith all due respect Gavin, large-block advocates appear to hold the position that:\n* pushing individual economic actors away from running full nodes is a natural and unproblematic consequence of block size increase, as they're expected to rely on SPV\nYou now also appear to hold the position that:\n* pushing miners to SPV mining is unproblematic\n\nHave I misunderstood? Is one of these not an expected outcome of large blocks? I can understand the validity of either argument alone -- the assertion that we can trust miners to validate and just trust most-POW ourselves, /or/ the assertion that lack of miner validation is safe under certain circumstances. But together?\n\nWho do you expect to actually validate large blocks if not miners, and what do you expect their incentive to do so to be?\n\n-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----\nVersion: APG v1.1.1\n\niQFABAEBCgAqBQJVwcYAIxxHYXJldGggV2lsbGlhbXMgPGdhY3J1eEBnbWFpbC5j\nb20+AAoJEEY5w2E3jkVEEWQH/Aty47q71H/ZcMMX/6qcTpOumI9h/buUfsvYA2H+\nJ6Al5S8JvCy3/0yMFCLmqolHoxOdWu5jwtUf/w2fepgA1RJyZItFo1EG9cJB0Cpz\nJgM+2s4L/F3l4+Gea2ddjhvE5JqGS0Qh3EWaR/xy1bouq0FZjtDendmK7vFRj/oS\nGowm+g5EFBiT1XwCQQXJc9k0RxzDpPQ0ouSOXWdPUuxfQAjPyX89eQBeQzgVDtEf\nzVfROZVHQuBu85rKTd32TdCNLQ0oEhAYmwgdtmJyLLgieeqHmNbaikBaVDEOvixn\nS+fmnfD8CVeeXo5zKdlLZXazc5geRx97H4NMBMjTyjPzR5k=\n=WG0I\n-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----"}