{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","author_name":"npub1vtwuk4rjyj6zrq3tv2z9lvdm6a7g8zujf0gz9q2vljlztdaqw36sjjsjpg","author_url":"https://nostr.ae/npub1vtwuk4rjyj6zrq3tv2z9lvdm6a7g8zujf0gz9q2vljlztdaqw36sjjsjpg","provider_name":"njump","provider_url":"https://nostr.ae","html":"📅 Original date posted:2015-08-11\n📝 Original message:On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Michael Naber via bitcoin-dev\n\u003cbitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org\u003e wrote:\n\u003e Note that lightning / hub and spoke do not meet requirements for users\n\u003e wishing to participate in global consensus, because they are not global\n\u003e consensus networks, since all participating nodes are not aware of all\n\u003e transactions.\n\nYou don't need consensus on the lightning network because you are\nusing bitcoin consensus anyway. Commitment transactions are deep\nenough in the blockchain history that removing that transaction from\nthe history is impractical. The remaining guarantees are ensured by\nthe properties of the scripts in the transaction. You don't need to\nsee all the transactions, but you do need to look at the transactions\nyou are given and draw conclusions based on the details to see whether\ntheir commitments are valid or the setup wasn't broken.\n\n- Bryan\nhttp://heybryan.org/\n1 512 203 0507"}