{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","author_name":"npub1m230cem2yh3mtdzkg32qhj73uytgkyg5ylxsu083n3tpjnajxx4qqa2np2","author_url":"https://nostr.ae/npub1m230cem2yh3mtdzkg32qhj73uytgkyg5ylxsu083n3tpjnajxx4qqa2np2","provider_name":"njump","provider_url":"https://nostr.ae","html":"📅 Original date posted:2013-06-04\n📝 Original message:On Tue, Jun 04, 2013 at 02:49:54PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:\n\u003e On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Roy Badami \u003croy at gnomon.org.uk\u003e wrote:\n\u003e \u003e\u003e Sure they are paying themselves, but given bitcoin network\n\u003e \u003e\u003e difficulty is uso high, simply obtaining payments-go-myself-as-miner\n\u003e \u003e\u003e transactions is itself difficult.\n\u003e \u003e\n\u003e \u003e Not for pool operators it isn't.  Nor for people buying hashing power\n\u003e \u003e from a GPUMAX-type service, if such services still exist (or should\n\u003e \u003e they exist again in future).\n\u003e \n\u003e Re-read what I wrote.  That's perfectly OK.  It is analogous to a pool\n\u003e operator receiving merged mined coins, each time they mine a bitcoin\n\u003e block.\n\u003e \n\u003e If you achieve the very high difficulty needed to create a valid\n\u003e bitcoin block, you have achieved a very high bar.\n\n\"High\" is relative.\n\nI could make a 100BTC apparently sacrifice via fees by just waiting a\nmonth or two for my mining hardware to find a block that had a\npre-prepared fake sacrifice. It'd cost me roughly 1BTC when you take\norphans into account. Similarly I could hack into a pool and have them\ndo it on my behalf, or a pool could just offer the service for a fee.\n\nI already worry enough that announce-commit sacrifices to mining fees\naren't secure enough given the potential of a few large pools teaming\nup to create them cheaply, let alone what you're talking about...\n\n\nHey Luke: so what's the going rate to get Eligius to mine a fake mining\nfee sacrifice? Can I get a discount on repeat orders? :)\n\n-- \n'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org\n000000000000014c5bfacfca559fd6a9519dcd338f9fca6590eda7d156120013\n-------------- next part --------------\nA non-text attachment was scrubbed...\nName: signature.asc\nType: application/pgp-signature\nSize: 198 bytes\nDesc: Digital signature\nURL: \u003chttp://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20130604/0f3549cf/attachment.sig\u003e"}