<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1m230cem2yh3mtdzkg32qhj73uytgkyg5ylxsu083n3tpjnajxx4qqa2np2</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1m230cem2yh3mtdzkg32qhj73uytgkyg5ylxsu083n3tpjnajxx4qqa2np2</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-06-12&#xA;📝 Original message:On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 08:39:21PM +0200, Benjamin wrote:&#xA;&gt; This is a misguided idea, to say the least. If such a mechanism of of&#xA;&gt; user input would be possible, one would use it for transaction&#xA;&gt; verification in the first place. In proof-of-stake outcomes are&#xA;&gt; determined by vote by stake (that vote has very different&#xA;&gt; characteristics than vote by compute power). There is no such thing as&#xA;&gt; making it possible to determine what &#34;users want&#34;. That&#39;s what the&#xA;&gt; proof-of-work mechanism does in the first place, only that it is now&#xA;&gt; unfortunately skewed/corrupted/(whatever you want to call it). Before&#xA;&gt; centralization the concept of &#34;miners&#34; didn&#39;t exist in Bitcoin and&#xA;&gt; miners were roughly identical to users. Peer-to-Peer implies only one&#xA;&gt; class of users.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; A big problem with such a vote (in PoW and PoS): miners get paid for&#xA;&gt; their work and have incentives to raise fees. Those who pay fees would&#xA;&gt; have no say in whether those fees are fair or not. Transaction&#xA;&gt; verification has to be roughly profitable, but there is no fixed&#xA;&gt; formula for determining profitability.&#xA;&#xA;Read John Dillon&#39;s proposal then, which via proof-of-stake explicitly&#xA;approportions control of increases via % of Bitcoin owned.&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;Anyway, representing everyone is never going to be easy, but at least&#xA;this nVersion thing is very easy to implement.&#xA;&#xA;-- &#xA;&#39;peter&#39;[:-1]@petertodd.org&#xA;0000000000000000127ab1d576dc851f374424f1269c4700ccaba2c42d97e778&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;A non-text attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;Name: signature.asc&#xA;Type: application/pgp-signature&#xA;Size: 650 bytes&#xA;Desc: Digital signature&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150612/9fb17544/attachment.sig&gt;</html></oembed>