<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1du3xh5wgds32a5fweqkd9k45kh30wl7kv2kyu8ugz9c2ztdg00tqqvyg93</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1du3xh5wgds32a5fweqkd9k45kh30wl7kv2kyu8ugz9c2ztdg00tqqvyg93</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2014-10-16&#xA;📝 Original message:On Wednesday 15. October 2014 11.36.58 Wladimir wrote:&#xA;&gt; &gt; We&#39;re also having problems with people failing to comment on things,&#xA;&gt; &gt; not even &#34;I looked at this and have no opinion&#34;, which is really&#xA;&gt; &gt; obstructing things.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; Well - the only way to avoid that is to set a reasonable deadline,&#xA;&gt; after which there is a default decision. You&#39;d hope this would&#xA;&gt; motivate people to get involved in time.&#xA;&#xA;I have been part of both the OSI (NEN) and the OASIS standards committees for &#xA;a while, working on standards as a technical adviser.&#xA;&#xA;There I learned a lot about how to manage this process, maybe some ideas from &#xA;such committees can be useful.&#xA;&#xA;The idea that one person owns a BIP makes total sense, (s)he is the only one &#xA;that should be putting forward the BIP when its mature enough for making it &#xA;final. Note that this can be already after its been implemented once or twice.&#xA;&#xA;So you have a phase where you have random people propose changes, which should &#xA;all go in the public mailinglist, and they can be accepted by the owner &#xA;without discussion.&#xA;If anyone that sees that change has an objection to the change, (s)he speaks &#xA;up and you follow group consensus. This means (and this is actually in an ISO &#xA;standard ;) that consensus is reached when nobody is left objecting to the &#xA;change.&#xA;&#xA;At some point the BIP is mature enough to vote on, at the discretion of the &#xA;owner, and the owner puts it forward and requests a vote. If the above process &#xA;was handled cleanly there is a very small chance of it being down-voted so an &#xA;actual vote may not be needed (its hard to decide who gets a vote..).&#xA;You obviously need a deadline for this and afterwards you mark the proposal &#xA;final. Or you close it as &#34;needs more work&#34;.&#xA;-- &#xA;Thomas Zander</html></oembed>