<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1tjephawh7fdf6358jufuh5eyxwauzrjqa7qn50pglee4tayc2ntqcjtl6r</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1tjephawh7fdf6358jufuh5eyxwauzrjqa7qn50pglee4tayc2ntqcjtl6r</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-08-06&#xA;📝 Original message:On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Gavin Andresen via bitcoin-dev &lt;&#xA;bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&gt; wrote:&#xA;&#xA;&gt; On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 9:26 PM, Jorge Timón &lt;&#xA;&gt; bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt; This is a much more reasonable position. I wish this had been starting&#xA;&gt;&gt; point of this discussion instead of &#34;the block size limit must be&#xA;&gt;&gt; increased as soon as possible or bitcoin will fail&#34;.&#xA;&gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; It REALLY doesn&#39;t help the debate when you say patently false statements&#xA;&gt; like that.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; My first blog post on this issue is here:&#xA;&gt;   http://gavinandresen.ninja/why-increasing-the-max-block-size-is-urgent&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; ... and I NEVER say &#34;Bitcoin will fail&#34;.  I say:&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; &#34;If the number of transactions waiting gets large enough, the end result&#xA;&gt; will be an over-saturated network, busy doing nothing productive. I don’t&#xA;&gt; think that is likely– it is more likely people just stop using Bitcoin&#xA;&gt; because transaction confirmation becomes increasingly unreliable.&#34;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&#xA;But you seem to consider that a bad thing. Maybe saying that you&#39;re&#xA;claiming that this equals Bitcoin failing is an exaggeration, but you do&#xA;believe that evolving towards an ecosystem where there is competition for&#xA;block space is a bad thing, right?&#xA;&#xA;I don&#39;t agree that &#34;Not everyone is able to use the block chain for every&#xA;use case&#34; is the same thing as &#34;People stop using Bitcoin&#34;. People are&#xA;already not using it for every use case.&#xA;&#xA;Here is what my proposed BIP says: &#34;No hard forking change that relaxes the&#xA;block size limit can be guaranteed to provide enough space for every&#xA;possible demand - or even any particular demand - unless strong&#xA;centralization of the mining ecosystem is expected. Because of that, the&#xA;development of a fee market and the evolution towards an ecosystem that is&#xA;able to cope with block space competition should be considered healthy.&#34;&#xA;&#xA;-- &#xA;Pieter&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150806/aff56c38/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>