<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1g6vxlp4e0nyhs2dqxxcryztyf5f5hyuaq93nw4r87zcnv0sdsa0qqsl5wd</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1g6vxlp4e0nyhs2dqxxcryztyf5f5hyuaq93nw4r87zcnv0sdsa0qqsl5wd</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-08-17&#xA;📝 Original message:One of the comments made by the mining pools is that they won&#39;t run XT&#xA;because it is &#34;experimental&#34;.&#xA;&#xA;Has there been any consideration to making available a version of XT with&#xA;only the blocksize changes?&#xA;&#xA;The least &#34;experimental&#34; version would be one that makes the absolute&#xA;minimum changes to core.&#xA;&#xA;The MAX_BLOCK_SIZE parameter could be overwritten whenever the longest tip&#xA;changes.  This saves creating a new function.&#xA;&#xA;Without the consensus measuring code, the patch would be even easier.&#xA;Satoshi&#39;s proposal was just a block height comparison (a year in advance).&#xA;&#xA;The state storing code is also another complication.  If the standard&#xA;&#34;counting&#34; upgrade system was used, then no state would need to be stored&#xA;in the database.&#xA;&#xA;On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 11:49 PM, odinn &lt;odinn.cyberguerrilla at riseup.net&gt;&#xA;wrote:&#xA;&#xA;&gt; -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----&#xA;&gt; Hash: SHA1&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; (My replies below)&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; On 06/26/2015 06:47 AM, Tier Nolan wrote:&#xA;&gt; &gt; On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Adam Back &lt;adam at cypherspace.org&#xA;&gt; &gt; &lt;mailto:adam at cypherspace.org&gt;&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt; The hard-cap serves the purpose of a safety limit in case our&#xA;&gt; &gt; understanding about the economics, incentives or game-theory is&#xA;&gt; &gt; wrong worst case.&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt; True.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Yep.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt; BIP 100 and 101 could be combined.  Would that increase consensus?&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Possibly ~ In my past message(s), I&#39;ve suggested that Jeff&#39;s BIP 100&#xA;&gt; is a better alternative to Gavin&#39;s proposal(s), but that I didn&#39;t&#xA;&gt; think that this should be taken to mean that I am saying one thing is&#xA;&gt; &#34;superior&#34; to Gavin&#39;s work, rather, I emphasized that Gavin work with&#xA;&gt; Jeff and Adam.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; At least, at this stage the things are in a BIP process.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; If the BIP 100 and BIP 101 would be combined, what would that look&#xA;&gt; like on paper?&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt; - Miner vote threshold reached - Wait notice period or until&#xA;&gt; &gt; earliest start time - Block size default target set to 1 MB - Soft&#xA;&gt; &gt; limit set to 1MB - Hard limit set to 8MB + double every 2 years -&#xA;&gt; &gt; Miner vote to decide soft limit (lowest size ignoring bottom 20%&#xA;&gt; &gt; but 1MB minimum)&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt; Block size updates could be aligned with the difficulty setting&#xA;&gt; &gt; and based on the last 2016 blocks.&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt; Miners could leave the 1MB limit in place initially.  The vote is&#xA;&gt; &gt; to get the option to increase the block size.&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt; Legacy clients would remain in the network until &gt;80% of miners&#xA;&gt; &gt; vote to raise the limit and a miner produces a &gt;1MB block.&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt; If the growth rate over-estimates hardware improvements, the devs&#xA;&gt; &gt; could add a limit into the core client.  If they give notice and&#xA;&gt; &gt; enough users update, then miners would have to accept it.&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt; The block size becomes min(miner&#39;s vote, core devs).  Even if 4&#xA;&gt; &gt; years notice is given, blocks would only be 4X optimal.&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt; _______________________________________________ bitcoin-dev mailing&#xA;&gt; &gt; list bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&#xA;&gt; &gt; https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; - --&#xA;&gt; http://abis.io ~&#xA;&gt; &#34;a protocol concept to enable decentralization&#xA;&gt; and expansion of a giving economy, and a new social good&#34;&#xA;&gt; https://keybase.io/odinn&#xA;&gt; -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----&#xA;&gt; Version: GnuPG v1&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJVlG5oAAoJEGxwq/inSG8C0r4H/0eklB9GxgHdl4LK7UoLeYYb&#xA;&gt; hlCiIJZ1+sRhTRIHrBtZO+nb2Uy3jLdqO9eOL4z9OXk3TCRBFwSdWrwsZXbzy3tC&#xA;&gt; 5TmYlHvLSpfjiUxpP9JcO5E2VwFvB80pKkjPuUhwFVngh0HHsTA1IinUt52ZW1QP&#xA;&gt; wTdgKFHw3QL9zcfEXljVa3Ih9ssqrl5Eoab8vE2yr3p3QHR7caRLY1gFyKKIRxVH&#xA;&gt; YQangx6D33JcxyAcDNhYqavyt02lHxscqyZo6I4XUvE/aZVmSVTlm2zg7xdR7aCZ&#xA;&gt; 0PlDwzpMD6Zk2QO/5qPPPos/5VETT0ompFK62go/hY2uB4cm+yZw3FFxR+Kknog=&#xA;&gt; =rtTH&#xA;&gt; -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----&#xA;&gt;&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150817/8f7d94b9/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>