<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1j3u42vq63qzs2nyddgkf4s4t7pa85x855vas54e6yauxsvpf2wcsacwg9h</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1j3u42vq63qzs2nyddgkf4s4t7pa85x855vas54e6yauxsvpf2wcsacwg9h</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-12-20&#xA;📝 Original message:What will be the actual effect over wallets?&#xA;&#xA;Say I have the private key for a dormant UTXO older than the&#xA;consensus-critical maximum UTXO age. The UTXO is not part of the cache.&#xA;So I setup a full node and import my old private key (wallet.dat). Will&#xA;I even see the correct balance (where will it get if from, since it&#39;s&#xA;dropped from the cache), or it will show me a 0 balance?&#xA;&#xA;If I can see the correct balance, where can I get the proof I need and&#xA;what ensures I&#39;ll always be able to get that proof?&#xA;&#xA;On 12/20/2015 1:34 PM, Jeff Garzik via bitcoin-dev wrote:&#xA;&gt; On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 6:24 AM, Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev&#xA;&gt; &lt;bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&#xA;&gt; &lt;mailto:bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&gt;&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt;     What I proprosed is that a consensus-critical maximum UTXO age be part&#xA;&gt;     of the protocol; UTXO&#39;s younger than that age are expected to be cached.&#xA;&gt;     For UTXO&#39;s older than that age, they can be dropped from the cache,&#xA;&gt;     however to spend them you are required to provide the proof, and that&#xA;&gt;     proof counts as blockchain space to account for the fact that they do&#xA;&gt;     need to be broadcast on the network.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; Yes, this is almost what -has- to happen in the long term.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; Ideally we should start having wallets generate those proofs now, and&#xA;&gt; then introduce the max-age as a second step as a planned hard fork a&#xA;&gt; couple years down the line.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; However,&#xA;&gt; 1) There is also the open question of &#34;grandfathered&#34; UTXOs - for those&#xA;&gt; wallets generated in 2009, buried in a landfill and then dug out 10&#xA;&gt; years ago&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; 2) This reverses the useful minimization attribute of HD wallets - &#34;just&#xA;&gt; backup the seed&#34;&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt;</html></oembed>