<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1tjephawh7fdf6358jufuh5eyxwauzrjqa7qn50pglee4tayc2ntqcjtl6r</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1tjephawh7fdf6358jufuh5eyxwauzrjqa7qn50pglee4tayc2ntqcjtl6r</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-08-10&#xA;📝 Original message:On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Gavin Andresen &lt;gavinandresen at gmail.com&gt;&#xA;wrote:&#xA;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Executive summary: when networks get over-saturated, they become&#xA;&gt; unreliable.  Unreliable is bad.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Unreliable and expensive is extra bad, and that&#39;s where we&#39;re headed&#xA;&gt; without an increase to the max block size.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&#xA;I think I see your point of view. You see demand for on-chain transactions&#xA;as a single number that grows with adoption. Once the transaction creation&#xA;rate grows close to the capacity, transactions will become unreliable, and&#xA;you consider this a bad thing.&#xA;&#xA;And if you see Bitcoin as a payment system where guaranteed time to&#xA;confirmation is a feature, I fully agree. But I think that is an&#xA;unrealistic dream. It only seems reliable because of lack of use. It costs&#xA;1.5 BTC per day to create enough transactions to fill the block chain at&#xA;the minimum relay fee, and a small multiple of that at actual fee levels.&#xA;Assuming that rate remains similar with an increased block size, that&#xA;remains cheap.&#xA;&#xA;If you want transactions to be cheap, it will also be cheap to make them&#xA;unreliable.&#xA;&#xA;-- &#xA;Pieter&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150810/0fff338b/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>