<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1s4lj77xuzcu7wy04afcr487f0r3za0f8n2775xrpkld2sv639mjqsd44kw</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1s4lj77xuzcu7wy04afcr487f0r3za0f8n2775xrpkld2sv639mjqsd44kw</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-08-07&#xA;📝 Original message:Popping this into it&#39;s own thread:&#xA;&#xA;Jorge asked:&#xA;&#xA;&gt; &gt;&gt; 1) If &#34;not now&#34;, when will it be a good time to let the &#34;market&#xA;&gt; &gt;&gt; minimum fee for miners to mine a transaction&#34; rise above zero?&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&#xA;I answered:&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;&gt; &gt; 1. If you are willing to wait an infinite amount of time, I think the&#xA;&gt; &gt; minimum fee will always be zero or very close to zero, so I think it&#39;s a&#xA;&gt; &gt; silly question.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&#xA;Which Jorge misinterpreted to mean that I think there will always be at&#xA;least one miner willing to mine a transaction for free.&#xA;&#xA;That&#39;s not what I&#39;m thinking. It is just an observation based on the fact&#xA;that blocks are found at random intervals.&#xA;&#xA;Every once in a while the network will get lucky and we&#39;ll find six blocks&#xA;in ten minutes. If you are deciding what transaction fee to put on your&#xA;transaction, and you&#39;re willing to wait until that&#xA;six-blocks-in-ten-minutes once-a-week event, submit your transaction with a&#xA;low fee.&#xA;&#xA;All the higher-fee transactions waiting to be confirmed will get confirmed&#xA;in the first five blocks and, if miners don&#39;t have any floor on the fee&#xA;they&#39;ll accept (they will, but lets pretend they won&#39;t) then your&#xA;very-low-fee transaction will get confirmed.&#xA;&#xA;In the limit, that logic becomes &#34;wait an infinite amount of time, pay zero&#xA;fee.&#34;&#xA;&#xA;So... I have no idea what the &#39;market minimum fee&#39; will be, because I have&#xA;no idea how long people will be willing to wait, how many times they&#39;ll be&#xA;willing to retransmit a low-fee transaction that gets evicted from&#xA;memory-limited memory pools, or how much memory miners will be willing to&#xA;dedicate to storing transactions that won&#39;t confirm for a long time because&#xA;they&#39;re waiting for a flurry of blocks to be found.&#xA;&#xA;-- &#xA;--&#xA;Gavin Andresen&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150807/86bfb634/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>