<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1kf0ppcjaguxekg24yx6smgxlu73qn0k8lm0t2wrqc0scpl7u3sgsmf3f58</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1kf0ppcjaguxekg24yx6smgxlu73qn0k8lm0t2wrqc0scpl7u3sgsmf3f58</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-06-18&#xA;📝 Original message:On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 8:29 AM, Pieter Wuille &lt;pieter.wuille at gmail.com&gt;&#xA;wrote:&#xA;&#xA;&gt; On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Wladimir J. van der Laan &lt;&#xA;&gt; laanwj at gmail.com&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt; Like in any open source project there is lots of decision making ability&#xA;&gt;&gt; for code changes. I&#39;d say look at the changelog for e.g. 0.11&#xA;&gt;&gt; https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/0.11/doc/release-notes.md#0110-change-log,&#xA;&gt;&gt; or follow pull requests for a while, to see how many decisions about&#xA;&gt;&gt; changes are made from day to day. No, I&#39;m not sitting on my hands, and so&#xA;&gt;&gt; is none of the other contributors that you&#39;d like to get rid of.&#xA;&gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; The analogy goes further even. Even though I disagree with some of the&#xA;&gt; changes you&#39;re making, I respect Mike&#39;s (and anyone&#39;s) right to make a fork&#xA;&gt; of Bitcoin Core. That&#39;s how open source works: if people disagree with&#xA;&gt; changes made or not made, they can maintain their own version. However:&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt; Consensus changes are *much* more difficult, on the other hand. Even&#xA;&gt;&gt; relatively straightforward softforks come with a long discussion process&#xA;&gt;&gt; (see BIP62, BIP66). A hardfork is hard to do at the best of times (everyone&#xA;&gt;&gt; needs to upgrade their software!), and simply not possible if almost the&#xA;&gt;&gt; entire technical community disagrees with you.&#xA;&gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Consensus changes - in particular hardforks - are not about making a&#xA;&gt; change to the software. You are effectively asking users of the system to&#xA;&gt; migrate to a new system. Perhaps one which is a philosophical successor to&#xA;&gt; the old one, but a different system, with new rules that are incompatible&#xA;&gt; with the old one.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&#xA;Indeed.  I think Mike is glossing over this major facet.&#xA;&#xA;Consensus changes - worded another way - change Bitcoin&#39;s Constitution -&#xA;The Rules that everyone in the system is -forced- to follow, or be ignored&#xA;by the system.&#xA;&#xA;Changing bitcoin&#39;s rules IS IN NO WAY like Wikipedia or other open source&#xA;software.&#xA;&#xA;-- &#xA;Jeff Garzik&#xA;Bitcoin core developer and open source evangelist&#xA;BitPay, Inc.      https://bitpay.com/&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150618/4eec5ab0/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>