<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1xqcwcttsyk0a64d63crrwsxp88pa42np37rw87hrfn4uku78g2aqltcnns</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1xqcwcttsyk0a64d63crrwsxp88pa42np37rw87hrfn4uku78g2aqltcnns</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2021-06-07&#xA;📝 Original message:@SatoshiSingh PoLW sounds like a hybrid of PoW and proof of burn. I agree&#xA;with befreeandopen that proof of burn is basically a form of proof of&#xA;stake. My conclusion from this exploration&#xA;&lt;https://github.com/fresheneesz/proofOfTimeOwnership&gt; is that hybrid&#xA;protocols are a dead end because hybrid protocols have one weaker link&#xA;that&#39;s easier to attack.&#xA;&#xA;In this case, miners are burning coinbase rewards. The proof of stake is&#xA;the burn itself. However, a miner would only burn coins if doing so lead to&#xA;greater rewards in the future. So the burned coins are in fact actually&#xA;earned, and still have value. Therefore I would think that miners would&#xA;still do an amount of work totaling up to the full value of the block&#xA;reward, regardless of whether they burn it, because any burnt coins should&#xA;be expected to lead to more coins in the future than were burned. What am I&#xA;missing?&#xA;&#xA;On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 10:30 PM SatoshiSingh &lt;SatoshiSingh at protonmail.com&gt;&#xA;wrote:&#xA;&#xA;&gt; Great conversation everyone. I&#39;m happy we&#39;re still engaged with this&#xA;&gt; discussion. To add food for thought I&#39;m bringing back something that was&#xA;&gt; introduced in this mailing list sometime ago, which is Proof of Less Work.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; PoLW may or may not be it but we can certainly get more ideas from it to&#xA;&gt; keep the discussion going.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; https://raw.githubusercontent.com/alephium/research/master/polw.pdf&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20210606/1ff6314d/attachment-0001.html&gt;</html></oembed>