<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1jr34gu65jpq9770ehxzw032lsmj8zfxctrcyngn8d8498m5parvqhug3vh</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1jr34gu65jpq9770ehxzw032lsmj8zfxctrcyngn8d8498m5parvqhug3vh</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-06-15&#xA;📝 Original message:I&#39;m quite puzzled by the response myself, it doesn&#39;t seem to address some&#xA;of the (more serious) concerns that Adam put out, the most important&#xA;question that was asked being the one regarding personal ownership of the&#xA;proposed fork:&#xA;&#xA;&#34;How do you plan to deal with security &amp; incident response for the duration&#xA;you describe where you will have control while you are deploying the&#xA;unilateral hard-fork and being in sole maintainership control?&#34;&#xA;&#xA;I do genuinely hope that whomever (now and future) wishes to fork the&#xA;protocol reconsider first whether they are truly ready to test/flex their&#xA;reputation/skills/resources in this way... Intuitively, to me it seems&#xA;counterproductive, and I don&#39;t fully believe it is within a single&#xA;developer&#39;s talents to manage the process start-to-finish (as it is&#xA;non-trivial to hard-fork successfully, others have rehashed this in other&#xA;threads)...&#xA;&#xA;That being said I think it appropriate if Adam&#39;s questions were responded&#xA;in-line when Mike is feeling up to it. I think that the answers are&#xA;important for the community to hear when such a drastic change is being&#xA;espoused.&#xA;&#xA;Faiz&#xA;&#xA;On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Bryan Bishop &lt;kanzure at gmail.com&gt; wrote:&#xA;&#xA;&gt; On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Mike Hearn &lt;mike at plan99.net&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt; Re: anyone who agrees with noted non-programmers Mike&amp;Gavin must be&#xA;&gt;&gt; non-technical, stupid, uninformed, etc .... OK, go ahead and show them the&#xA;&gt;&gt; error of their ways. Anyone can write blogs.&#xA;&gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; I worry that if this is the level of care you take with reading and&#xA;&gt; (mis)interpreting Adam&#39;s messages, that you might not be taking extreme&#xA;&gt; care with evaluating consensus changes, even while tired or sleeping. I&#xA;&gt; encourage you to evaluate both messages and source code more carefully,&#xA;&gt; especially in the world of bitcoin. However, this goes for everyone and not&#xA;&gt; just you. Specifically, when Adam mentioned your conversations with&#xA;&gt; non-technical people, he did not mean &#34;Mike has talked with people who have&#xA;&gt; possibly not made pull requests to Bitcoin Core, so therefore Mike is a&#xA;&gt; non-programmer&#34;. Communication is difficult and I can understand that, but&#xA;&gt; we really have to be more careful when evaluating each other&#39;s messages;&#xA;&gt; technical miscommunication can be catastrophic in this context. On the&#xA;&gt; topic of whether you are a programmer, I suspect that ever since you built&#xA;&gt; CIA.vc we have all known you&#39;re a programmer, Mike.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; - Bryan&#xA;&gt; http://heybryan.org/&#xA;&gt; 1 512 203 0507&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; _______________________________________________&#xA;&gt; Bitcoin-development mailing list&#xA;&gt; Bitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.net&#xA;&gt; https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; --&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; My regards,&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Faiz Khan&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;  &lt;https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development&gt;&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150615/4978e818/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>