<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub18gjvug29c4yg46lmplq38e75gg6wn5mn8taytckcsr4jt8p74h3s5knkzl</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub18gjvug29c4yg46lmplq38e75gg6wn5mn8taytckcsr4jt8p74h3s5knkzl</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-05-08&#xA;📝 Original message:That&#39;s fair, and we&#39;ve implemented child-pays-for-parent for spending&#xA;unconfirmed inputs in breadwallet. But what should the behavior be when&#xA;those options aren&#39;t understood/implemented/used?&#xA;&#xA;My argument is that the less risky, more conservative default fallback&#xA;behavior should be either non-propagation or delayed confirmation, which is&#xA;generally what we have now, until we hit the block size limit. We still&#xA;have lots of safe, non-controversial, easy to experiment with options to&#xA;add fee pressure, causing users to economize on block space without&#xA;resorting to dropping transactions after a prolonged delay.&#xA;&#xA;Aaron Voisine&#xA;co-founder and CEO&#xA;breadwallet.com&#xA;&#xA;On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 3:45 PM, Mark Friedenbach &lt;mark at friedenbach.org&gt;&#xA;wrote:&#xA;&#xA;&gt; On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Aaron Voisine &lt;voisine at gmail.com&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt; This is a clever way to tie block size to fees.&#xA;&gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt; I would just like to point out though that it still fundamentally is&#xA;&gt;&gt; using hard block size limits to enforce scarcity. Transactions with below&#xA;&gt;&gt; market fees will hang in limbo for days and fail, instead of failing&#xA;&gt;&gt; immediately by not propagating, or seeing degraded, long confirmation times&#xA;&gt;&gt; followed by eventual success.&#xA;&gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; There are already solutions to this which are waiting to be deployed as&#xA;&gt; default policy to bitcoind, and need to be implemented in other clients:&#xA;&gt; replace-by-fee and child-pays-for-parent.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150508/561f60f5/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>