<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1fx98zxt3lzspjs5f4msr0fxysx5euucm29ghysryju7vpc9j0jzqtcl2d8</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1fx98zxt3lzspjs5f4msr0fxysx5euucm29ghysryju7vpc9j0jzqtcl2d8</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-10-05&#xA;📝 Original message:On Oct 5, 2015 1:28 PM, &#34;Mike Hearn via bitcoin-dev&#34; &lt;&#xA;bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Well, let&#39;s agree to disagree on these two things:&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; - I define &#34;working&#34; for a full node as verifying everything; if a node&#xA;starts skipping bits then I&#39;d say it&#39;s not really &#34;working&#34; according to&#xA;its original design goals&#xA;&#xA;But assuming the hashrate majority has upgraded (and we&#39;re using 95% as the&#xA;miner upgrade confirmation threshold to start activation, so that&#xA;assumption seems pretty safe), a non-upgraded full node and an upgraded&#xA;full will converge on what they see: &#34;the most-work valid chain&#34; will be&#xA;the same for both. A non-upgraded full node wallet waiting for several&#xA;confirmations (for example, 6 confirmations) will be just as safe as an&#xA;upgraded one. In that sense, it keeps working. On top of that, nodes (of&#xA;any kind) can use unknown block version numbers to notify the user or even&#xA;stop working (the same notification mechanism you would use with hardforks).&#xA;&#xA;I agree that hardforks are necessary and we should deploy a hardfork asap&#xA;to show the world they are indeed possible (bip99 proposes a likely&#xA;uncontroversial one), but I still believe that is clear that softfork&#xA;deployment is preferrable in many cases like this one.&#xA;&#xA;Are you going to produce a bip65 hardfork alternative to try to convince&#xA;people of its advantages over bip65 (it is not clear to me how you include&#xA;a new script operand via hardfork)?&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20151005/b9f495ac/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>