<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1kf0ppcjaguxekg24yx6smgxlu73qn0k8lm0t2wrqc0scpl7u3sgsmf3f58</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1kf0ppcjaguxekg24yx6smgxlu73qn0k8lm0t2wrqc0scpl7u3sgsmf3f58</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2013-06-04&#xA;📝 Original message:On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Adam Back &lt;adam at cypherspace.org&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt; d) some new standardized spend to fees (only miners can claim).&#xA;&#xA;&gt; so if I understand what you proposed d) seems like a useful concept if that&#xA;&gt; is not currently possible.  eg alternatively could we not just propose a&#xA;&gt; standard recognized address that clearly no-one knows the EC discrete log&#xA;&gt; of?&#xA;&#xA;I&#39;m one of the people experimenting in this area.  I&#39;ve long argued&#xA;that a zero-output transaction should be permitted -- 100% miner fee&#xA;-- as an elegant proof of sacrifice.  Unfortunately that requires a&#xA;hard fork.  Also, for most people, it seems likely that a change&#xA;transaction would be generated.  That, then, would generate an&#xA;already-standard transaction, where inputs &gt; outputs.&#xA;&#xA;-- &#xA;Jeff Garzik&#xA;Senior Software Engineer and open source evangelist&#xA;BitPay, Inc.      https://bitpay.com/</html></oembed>