<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1r0g954grld59fuphzsypmuuhpdunq67f729afmp44h2mxvth2hts4vdpg3</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1r0g954grld59fuphzsypmuuhpdunq67f729afmp44h2mxvth2hts4vdpg3</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2017-06-06&#xA;📝 Original message:This is just me putting in my formal objection to BIP148 and BIP149 based on my experience with the ETH/ETC hard fork and involvement in that drama.&#xA;&#xA;First, it&#39;s important to note that ETC/ETH HF is a very different situation from BIP148 and all other soft-forks. To those on this mailing list, the reasons should be self-evident (one results in two incompatible chains, the other doesn&#39;t).&#xA;&#xA;However, replay attacks are common to both possibilities (i.e. when BIP148 has &lt;51% hash power).&#xA;&#xA;I believe the severity of replay attacks is going unvoiced and is not understood within the bitcoin community because of their lack of experience with them.&#xA;&#xA;I further believe that replay attacks are the #1 issue with BIP148, BIP149, etc., superseding wipeout attacks in severity.&#xA;&#xA;These are not baseless beliefs, they&#39;re born out of experience and I think anyone will reach the same conclusion upon study.&#xA;&#xA;In a nutshell, replay attacks mean that all talk of there being potentially &#34;two coins&#34; as a result of BIP148 is basically nonsense.&#xA;&#xA;Replay attacks effectively eliminate that possibility.&#xA;&#xA;When users go to &#34;sell their legacy coins&#34;, they&#39;ve just sold their 148 coins, and vice versa.&#xA;&#xA;Both of the coin-splitting techniques given so far by the proponents BIP148 are also untenable:&#xA;&#xA;- Double-spending to self with nLockTime txns is insanely complicated, risky, not guaranteed to work, extremely time consuming, and would likely result in a massive increase in backlogged transactions and increased fees.&#xA;&#xA;- Mixing with 148 coinbase txns destroys fungibility.&#xA;&#xA;Without a coin, there is no real threat from BIP148. Without that threat, there is no point to BIP148, and the miners know this.&#xA;&#xA;These and other concerns are outlined and explained in more detail in this conversation I had yesterday with John Light:&#xA;&#xA;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33rL3-p8cPw &lt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33rL3-p8cPw&gt;&#xA;&#xA;Cheers,&#xA;Greg Slepak&#xA;&#xA;--&#xA;Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA.&#xA;&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20170606/7b754c78/attachment.html&gt;&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;A non-text attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;Name: signature.asc&#xA;Type: application/pgp-signature&#xA;Size: 801 bytes&#xA;Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20170606/7b754c78/attachment.sig&gt;</html></oembed>