<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1r3san9v5njl6798hvauyu9ntm6r9c7u8s0t65wls58gpfdcvqp5sa48d0u</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1r3san9v5njl6798hvauyu9ntm6r9c7u8s0t65wls58gpfdcvqp5sa48d0u</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-05-10&#xA;📝 Original message:Micropayment channels are not pie in the sky proposals. They work today on&#xA;Bitcoin as it is deployed without any changes. People just need to start&#xA;using them.&#xA;On May 10, 2015 11:03, &#34;Owen Gunden&#34; &lt;ogunden at phauna.org&gt; wrote:&#xA;&#xA;&gt; On 05/08/2015 11:36 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote:&#xA;&gt; &gt; Another related point which has been tendered before but seems to have&#xA;&gt; &gt; been ignored is that changing how the size limit is computed can help&#xA;&gt; &gt; better align incentives and thus reduce risk.  E.g. a major cost to the&#xA;&gt; &gt; network is the UTXO impact of transactions, but since the limit is blind&#xA;&gt; &gt; to UTXO impact a miner would gain less income if substantially factoring&#xA;&gt; &gt; UTXO impact into its fee calculations; and without fee impact users have&#xA;&gt; &gt; little reason to optimize their UTXO behavior.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Along the lines of aligning incentives with a diversity of costs to a&#xA;&gt; variety of network participants, I am curious about reactions to Justus&#39;&#xA;&gt; general approach:&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; http://bitcoinism.liberty.me/2015/02/09/economic-fallacies-and-the-block-size-limit-part-2-price-discovery/&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; I realize it relies on pie-in-the-sky ideas like micropayment channels,&#xA;&gt; but I wonder if it&#39;s a worthy long-term ideal direction for this stuff.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------&#xA;&gt; One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud&#xA;&gt; Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications&#xA;&gt; Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights&#xA;&gt; Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight.&#xA;&gt; http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y&#xA;&gt; _______________________________________________&#xA;&gt; Bitcoin-development mailing list&#xA;&gt; Bitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.net&#xA;&gt; https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development&#xA;&gt;&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150510/531fe7c2/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>