<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub17ty4mumkv43w8wtt0xsz2jypck0gvw0j8xrcg6tpea25z2nh7meqf4qgyd</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub17ty4mumkv43w8wtt0xsz2jypck0gvw0j8xrcg6tpea25z2nh7meqf4qgyd</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-10-05&#xA;📝 Original message:Hi Jorge,&#xA;&#xA;I&#39;m glad we seem to be reaching agreement that hard forks aren&#39;t so bad&#xA;really and can even have advantages. It seems the remaining area of&#xA;disagreement is this rollout specifically.&#xA;&#xA;&gt; a non-upgraded full node and an upgraded full will converge on what they&#xA;&gt; see: &#34;the most-work valid chain&#34; will be the same for both.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;Indeed it will, but the point of fully verifying is to *not* converge with&#xA;the miner majority, if something goes wrong and they aren&#39;t following the&#xA;same rules as you. Defining &#34;work&#34; as &#34;converge with miner majority&#34; is&#xA;fine for SPV wallets and a correct or at least reasonable definition. But&#xA;not for fully verifying nodes, where non-convergence is an explicit design&#xA;goal! That&#39;s the only thing that stops miners awarding themselves infinite&#xA;free money!&#xA;&#xA;&gt; Are you going to produce a bip65 hardfork alternative to try to convince&#xA;&gt; people of its advantages over bip65 (it is not clear to me how you include&#xA;&gt; a new script operand via hardfork)?&#xA;&gt;&#xA;No, I&#39;m focused on the block size issue right now. I don&#39;t think there&#39;s&#xA;much point in improving the block chain protocol if most users are going to&#xA;be unable to use it. But the modification is simple, right? You just&#xA;replace this bit:&#xA;&#xA;  CHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY redefines the existing NOP2 opcode&#xA;&#xA;with this&#xA;&#xA;  CHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY defines a new opcode (0xc0)&#xA;&#xA;and that&#39;s it. The section *upgrade and testing plan* only says TBD so that&#xA;part doesn&#39;t even need to change at all, as it&#39;s not written yet.&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20151005/46cc6d47/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>