<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub18df3zgqr9zt5ah42zpd34rmq6fp7v57vvwmtk20krhrfdczp38ks5xccej</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub18df3zgqr9zt5ah42zpd34rmq6fp7v57vvwmtk20krhrfdczp38ks5xccej</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-12-13&#xA;📝 Original message:&gt; In none of these cases do you lose anything.&#xA;&#xA;Nor do you gain anything. Archive nodes will still need to exist&#xA;precisely because paper wallets don&#39;t include UTXO data. This is like&#xA;adding the ability to partially seed a movie with bittorrent. You&#xA;still need someone who has the whole thing has to be participating in&#xA;order for anyone to play the movie.&#xA;&#xA;This isn&#39;t going to kill bitcoin, but it won&#39;t make it any better.&#xA;Every paper wallet would have to be re-printed with UTXO data&#xA;included. It doesn&#39;t even solve the core problem because someone can&#xA;still flood the network with lots of UTXOs, as long as they spend them&#xA;quickly.&#xA;&#xA;On 12/13/15, Gregory Maxwell &lt;greg at xiph.org&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt; On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Chris Priest &lt;cp368202 at ohiou.edu&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt;&gt; Lets say it&#39;s 2050 and I want to sweep a paper wallet I created in&#xA;&gt;&gt; 2013. I can&#39;t just make the TX and send it to the network, I have to&#xA;&gt;&gt; first contact an &#34;archive node&#34; to get the UTXO data in order to make&#xA;&gt;&gt; the TX. How is this better than how the system works today?&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; You already are in that boat. If your paper wallet has only the&#xA;&gt; private key (as 100% of them do today). You&#39;ll have no idea what coins&#xA;&gt; have been assigned to it, or what their TXids are. You&#39;ll need to&#xA;&gt; contact a public index (which isn&#39;t a service existing nodes provide)&#xA;&gt; or synchronize the full blockchain history to find it. Both are also&#xA;&gt; sufficient for jl2012&#39;s (/Petertodd&#39;s STXO), they&#39;d only be providing&#xA;&gt; you with somewhat more data.  If instead, you insist that you&#39;d&#xA;&gt; already be running a full node and not have to wait for the sync, then&#xA;&gt; again you&#39;d also be your own archive. In none of these cases do you&#xA;&gt; lose anything.&#xA;&gt;</html></oembed>