<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1rslmeackq2vlwkzte3g5rc23960qkxnc3rfd7hvgne4plz5udfysayxqf2</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1rslmeackq2vlwkzte3g5rc23960qkxnc3rfd7hvgne4plz5udfysayxqf2</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-08-15&#xA;📝 Original message:What are you so afraid of, Eric? If Mike&#39;s fork is successful, consensus is&#xA;reached around larger blocks. If it is rejected, the status quo will remain&#xA;for now. Network consensus, NOT CORE DEVELOPER CONSENSUS, is the only thing&#xA;that matters, and those that go against network consensus will be severely&#xA;punished with complete loss of income.&#xA;&#xA;I&#39;m not sure who appointed the core devs some sort of Bitcoin Gods that can&#xA;hold up any change that they happen to disagree with. It seems like the&#xA;core devs are scared to death that the bitcoin network may change without&#xA;their blessing, so they go on and on about how terrible hard forks are.&#xA;Hard forks are the only way to keep core devs in check.&#xA;&#xA;Despite significant past technical bitcoin achievements, two of the most&#xA;vocal opponents to a reasonable blocksize increase work for a company&#xA;(Blockstream) that stands to profit directly from artificially limiting the&#xA;blocksize. The whole situation reeks. Because of such a blatant conflict of&#xA;interest, the ethical thing to do would be for them to either resign from&#xA;Blockstream or immediately withdraw themselves from the blocksize debate.&#xA;This is the type of stuff that I hoped would end with Bitcoin, but alas, I&#xA;guess human nature never changes.&#xA;&#xA;Personally, I think miners should give Bitcoin XT a serious look. Miners&#xA;need to realize that they are in direct competition with the lightning&#xA;network and sidechains for fees. Miners, ask yourselves if you think you&#39;ll&#xA;earn more fees with 1 MB blocks and more off-chain transactions or with 8&#xA;MB blocks and more on-chain transactions...&#xA;&#xA;The longer this debate drags on, the more I agree with BIP 100 and Jeff&#xA;Garzik because the core devs are already being influenced by outside forces&#xA;and should not have complete control of the blocksize. It&#39;s also&#xA;interesting to note that most of the mining hashpower is already voting for&#xA;8MB blocks BIP100 style.&#xA;&#xA;On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Eric Lombrozo via bitcoin-dev &lt;&#xA;bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&gt; wrote:&#xA;&#xA;&gt; You deeply disappoint me, Mike.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Not only do you misrepresent many cogent, well thought out positions from&#xA;&gt; a great number of people who have published and posted a number of articles&#xA;&gt; detailing an explaining in-depth technical concerns…you also seem to fancy&#xA;&gt; yourself more capable of reading into the intentions of someone who&#xA;&gt; disappeared from the scene years ago, before we even were fully aware of&#xA;&gt; many things we now know that bring the original “plan” into question.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; I ask of you, as a civilized human being, to stop doing this divisive&#xA;&gt; crap. Despite your protestations to the contrary, YOU are the one who is&#xA;&gt; proposing a radical departure from the direction of the project. Also, as&#xA;&gt; several of us have clearly stated before, equating the fork of an open&#xA;&gt; source project with a fork of a cryptoledger is completely bogus - there’s&#xA;&gt; a lot of other people’s money at stake. This isn’t a democracy - consensus&#xA;&gt; is all or nothing. The fact that a good number of the people most&#xA;&gt; intimately familiar with the inner workings of Satoshi’s invention do not&#xA;&gt; believe doing this is a good idea should give you pause.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Please stop using Bitcoin as your own political football…for the sake of&#xA;&gt; Bitcoin…and for your own sake. Despite your obvious technical abilities&#xA;&gt; (and I sincerely do believe you have them) you are discrediting yourself&#xA;&gt; and hurting your own reputation.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; - Eric&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; On Aug 15, 2015, at 10:02 AM, Mike Hearn via bitcoin-dev &lt;&#xA;&gt; bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Hello,&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; As promised, we have released Bitcoin XT 0.11A which includes the bigger&#xA;&gt; blocks patch set. You can get it from&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;      https://bitcoinxt.software/&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; I feel sad that it&#39;s come to this, but there is no other way. The Bitcoin&#xA;&gt; Core project has drifted so far from the principles myself and many others&#xA;&gt; feel are important, that a fork is the only way to fix things.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Forking is a natural thing in the open source community, Bitcoin is not&#xA;&gt; the first and won&#39;t be the last project to go through this. Often in forks,&#xA;&gt; people say there was insufficient communication. So to ensure everything is&#xA;&gt; crystal clear I&#39;ve written a blog post and a kind of &#34;manifesto&#34; to&#xA;&gt; describe why this is happening and how XT plans to be different from Core&#xA;&gt; (assuming adoption, of course).&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; The article is here:&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;     https://medium.com/@octskyward/why-is-bitcoin-forking-d647312d22c1&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; It makes no attempt to be neutral: this explains things from our point of&#xA;&gt; view.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; The manifesto is on the website.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; I say to all developers on this list: if you also feel that Core is no&#xA;&gt; longer serving the interests of Bitcoin users, come join us. We don&#39;t bite.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; _______________________________________________&#xA;&gt; bitcoin-dev mailing list&#xA;&gt; bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&#xA;&gt; https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; _______________________________________________&#xA;&gt; bitcoin-dev mailing list&#xA;&gt; bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&#xA;&gt; https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150815/43e010e3/attachment-0001.html&gt;</html></oembed>