<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1j3u42vq63qzs2nyddgkf4s4t7pa85x855vas54e6yauxsvpf2wcsacwg9h</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1j3u42vq63qzs2nyddgkf4s4t7pa85x855vas54e6yauxsvpf2wcsacwg9h</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2016-06-23&#xA;📝 Original message:On 6/23/2016 1:56 PM, Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev wrote:&#xA;&gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt; I don’t know if you are opposed to organizations that have AML requirements&#xA;&gt;&gt; from using the bitcoin blockchain, but if you aren’t, why wouldn’t you&#xA;&gt;&gt; prefer an open source, open standards based solution to exclusionary,&#xA;&gt;&gt; proprietary ones?&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; In some (most?) countries, it is illegal to offer telecoms services without&#xA;&gt; wiretap facilities. Does that mean Tor builds into its software &#34;open source&#34;&#xA;&gt; &#34;open standards&#34; wiretapping functionality? No. And interestingly, people&#xA;&gt; trying to add support for that stuff is actually a thing that keeps happening&#xA;&gt; in the Tor community...&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; In any case, I&#39;d strongly argue that we remove BIP75 from the bips repository,&#xA;&gt; and boycott wallets that implement it. It&#39;s bad strategy for Bitcoin developers&#xA;&gt; to willingly participate in AML/KYC, just the same way as it&#39;s bad for Tor to&#xA;&gt; add wiretapping functionality, and W3C to support DRM tech. The minor tactical&#xA;&gt; wins you&#39;ll get our of this aren&#39;t worth it.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;Exactly!&#xA;Totally agree with Peter Todd. There&#39;s absolutely no gain for Bitcoin to&#xA;willingly participate in AML/KYC. Plus this might come with strings&#xA;attached: for example when running a Tor relay in some countries if you&#xA;interfere with the traffic (censor, limit, filter, etc.) you become&#xA;responsible for it, while when you only relay anonymous traffic without&#xA;interfering or having the possibility to do so (installing certain&#xA;tools, using a modified Tor which allows you to do so, etc.) you cannot&#xA;be held responsible for the traffic.&#xA;&#xA;Any kind of built-in AML/KYC tools in Bitcoin is bad, and might draw&#xA;expectations from _all_ users from authorities. Companies or individuals&#xA;who want and/or need AML/KYC can find ways and do it at their side&#xA;isolated from the entire network, and the solutions shouldn&#39;t come from&#xA;upstream. AML/KYC/&lt;insert other regulation here&gt; differ from country to&#xA;country and will be hard to implement in a global consensus network even&#xA;if it would be worth it.&#xA;&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;A non-text attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;Name: signature.asc&#xA;Type: application/pgp-signature&#xA;Size: 488 bytes&#xA;Desc: OpenPGP digital signature&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20160623/3541af5b/attachment.sig&gt;</html></oembed>