<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1kf0ppcjaguxekg24yx6smgxlu73qn0k8lm0t2wrqc0scpl7u3sgsmf3f58</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1kf0ppcjaguxekg24yx6smgxlu73qn0k8lm0t2wrqc0scpl7u3sgsmf3f58</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-01-19&#xA;📝 Original message:Correct.  I should have said &#34;more likely to be deterministic&#34;  Bitcoin&#xA;Core does not *rely* on determinism in BIP70; I was referring to recent&#xA;upstream efforts to make protobufs usable in a deterministic fashion by&#xA;default.&#xA;&#xA;On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Alan Reiner &lt;etotheipi at gmail.com&gt; wrote:&#xA;&#xA;&gt;  I&#39;m a bit confused.  It&#39;s been a long time since I looked at protobuf&#xA;&gt; (and will have to dig into it soon), but I seem to recall it doesn&#39;t have&#xA;&gt; any of the determinism properties you guys just said.  It is intended to&#xA;&gt; allow you to skip details of the on-the-wire representations and just send&#xA;&gt; a bunch of named fields between systems.  I thought there was no guarantee&#xA;&gt; that two identical protobuf structures will get serialized identically...?&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; On 01/19/2015 02:57 PM, Richard Brady wrote:&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;   Thanks guys, great answers.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;  The design choice certainly makes a lot more sense now regardless of&#xA;&gt; whether one agrees with it or not.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;  Regards,&#xA;&gt; Richard&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------&#xA;&gt; New Year. New Location. New Benefits. New Data Center in Ashburn, VA.&#xA;&gt; GigeNET is offering a free month of service with a new server in Ashburn.&#xA;&gt; Choose from 2 high performing configs, both with 100TB of bandwidth.&#xA;&gt; Higher redundancy.Lower latency.Increased capacity.Completely compliant.http://p.sf.net/sfu/gigenet&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; _______________________________________________&#xA;&gt; Bitcoin-development mailing listBitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------&#xA;&gt; New Year. New Location. New Benefits. New Data Center in Ashburn, VA.&#xA;&gt; GigeNET is offering a free month of service with a new server in Ashburn.&#xA;&gt; Choose from 2 high performing configs, both with 100TB of bandwidth.&#xA;&gt; Higher redundancy.Lower latency.Increased capacity.Completely compliant.&#xA;&gt; http://p.sf.net/sfu/gigenet&#xA;&gt; _______________________________________________&#xA;&gt; Bitcoin-development mailing list&#xA;&gt; Bitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.net&#xA;&gt; https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;-- &#xA;Jeff Garzik&#xA;Bitcoin core developer and open source evangelist&#xA;BitPay, Inc.      https://bitpay.com/&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150119/5f969ba7/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>