<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1ffc8cszk5wq34nvq78qm7npmmc8wsxg4538k7sy604shwmmrsjgsk2qp3d</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1ffc8cszk5wq34nvq78qm7npmmc8wsxg4538k7sy604shwmmrsjgsk2qp3d</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-10-01&#xA;📝 Original message:Or, you know, enter some discussions on what exactly are the issues that SPV&#xA;clients face during soft forks and see if anything can be done (on all&#xA;sides) to mitigate the risks.&#xA;&#xA;Crazy stuff, I know Š ;-)&#xA;&#xA;From:  NotMike Hearn via bitcoin-dev &lt;bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&gt;&#xA;Reply-To:  NotMike Hearn &lt;not.mike.hearn at gmail.com&gt;&#xA;Date:  Friday, 2 October 2015 9:57 am&#xA;To:  &lt;bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&gt;&#xA;Subject:  Re: [bitcoin-dev] Let&#39;s deploy BIP65 CHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY!&#xA;&#xA;On 28 September 2015 at 06:48, Mike Hearn via bitcoin-dev&#xA;&lt;bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt; There is no consensus on using a soft fork to deploy this feature. It will&#xA;&gt; result in the same problems as all the other soft forks - SPV wallets will&#xA;&gt; become less reliable during the rollout period. I am against that, as it&#39;s&#xA;&gt; entirely avoidable.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Make it a hard fork and my objection will be dropped.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Until then, as there is no consensus, you need to do one of two things:&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; 1) Drop the &#34;everyone must agree to make changes&#34; idea that people here like&#xA;&gt; to peddle, and do it loudly, so everyone in the community is correctly&#xA;&gt; informed&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; 2) Do nothing&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&#xA;I agree with Mike Hearn that there is no consensus on using a soft fork to&#xA;deploy this feature. Either everyone agrees that we should all agree on&#xA;consensus or else there is arbitrary disagreement. You cannot have it both&#xA;ways.&#xA;&#xA;It is very important that we reach consensus on consensus or, if you will,&#xA;meta0consensus. I think we should Do nothing as that is clearly the choice&#xA;that we have taken re: blocksize. If we use one set of rules for that&#xA;decision we should use the same set of rules for all decisions and there is&#xA;no middle ground.&#xA;&#xA;Thank you.&#xA;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; _______________________________________________&#xA;&gt; bitcoin-dev mailing list&#xA;&gt; bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&#xA;&gt; https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&#xA;_______________________________________________ bitcoin-dev mailing list&#xA;bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&#xA;https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev&#xA;&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20151002/f95134ba/attachment-0001.html&gt;</html></oembed>