<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1uu2fve28mkg68uequseraz8gee7qg64733lr9r2g4c0xs5pmqnuslr4rpf</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1uu2fve28mkg68uequseraz8gee7qg64733lr9r2g4c0xs5pmqnuslr4rpf</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-10-06&#xA;📝 Original message:-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----&#xA;Hash: SHA1&#xA;&#xA;Tell you what, eloquent guy...&#xA;&#xA;Give me 15 minutes in a public open mic session with you and i&#39;ll&#xA;remove you from your high horse and close your voice in Bitcoin, for&#xA;good.&#xA;&#xA;Guaranteed. You&#39;re too stupid for me to let you run loose with client&#xA;funds and this great innovation.&#xA;&#xA;Anytime, anywhere. I&#39;m ready to dismantle your intellectual bankruptcy&#xA;in front of the world.&#xA;&#xA;I&#39;ll go for your psychological throat first.&#xA;&#xA;Sincerely,&#xA;Venzen Khaosan.&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;On 10/05/2015 11:56 PM, Mike Hearn via bitcoin-dev wrote:&#xA;&gt; Hey Sergio,&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; To clarify: my /single/ objection is that CLTV should be a hard&#xA;&gt; fork. I haven&#39;t been raising never-ending technical objections,&#xA;&gt; there&#39;s only one.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; I /have/ been answering all the various reasons being brought up&#xA;&gt; why I&#39;m wrong and soft forks are awesome .... and there do seem to&#xA;&gt; be a limitless number of such emails .... but on my side it&#39;s still&#xA;&gt; just a single objection. If CLTV is a hard fork then I won&#39;t be&#xA;&gt; objecting anymore, right?&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; CLTV deployment is clearly controversial. Many developers other&#xA;&gt; than me have noted that hard forks are cleaner, and have other&#xA;&gt; desirable properties. I&#39;m not the only one who sees a big question&#xA;&gt; mark over soft forks.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; As everyone in the Bitcoin community has been clearly told that &#xA;&gt; controversial changes to the consensus rules must not happen, it&#39;s&#xA;&gt; clear that CLTV cannot happen in its current form.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; Now I&#39;ll be frank - you are quite correct that I fully expect the&#xA;&gt; Core maintainers to ignore this controversy and do CLTV as a soft&#xA;&gt; fork anyway. I&#39;m a cynic. I don&#39;t think &#34;everyone must agree&#34; is&#xA;&gt; workable and have said so from the start. Faced with a choice of&#xA;&gt; going back on their public statements or having to make changes to&#xA;&gt; something they clearly want, I expect them to redefine what &#34;real&#xA;&gt; consensus&#34; means. I hope I&#39;m wrong, but if I&#39;m not ..... well, at&#xA;&gt; least everyone will see what Gavin and I have been talking about&#xA;&gt; for so many months.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; But I&#39;d rather the opcode is tweaked. There&#39;s real financial risks&#xA;&gt; to a soft fork.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; _______________________________________________ bitcoin-dev mailing&#xA;&gt; list bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org &#xA;&gt; https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev&#xA;&gt; &#xA;-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----&#xA;Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux)&#xA;&#xA;iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJWFBGjAAoJEGwAhlQc8H1mn2cH/0pTx1C0FK8shPSPaC3xB6sA&#xA;DpGTMrLWNai3i9VTwkUw8UvbqeL2QtZDghPdkDcvbmvOMc3UrOMQbc1eQ1eL6i3g&#xA;DiUCqUShOIAIvWJXGPTPNBulWBW9VkgK0y3uOprTd5D0VWKpWvDj+DMNqHaAC2Ab&#xA;JAfHx0mHlkTfrcBl30eAJWxoqG/ohu5QvTIP64AsK6w53qlbMcB13cES8mS/HJX9&#xA;MUtBcCbYRfF3Gu+OeYaEzzzXeuwsqql9qHr2wZYe9rECkSmYgL0DT5+WZiLY8B/x&#xA;E3dFtufR7yAHr91/gj9itOKf+unumhduX8LY8ubuIKmuwjdj30MDdNy7fqZ3uGs=&#xA;=lftV&#xA;-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----</html></oembed>