<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1sm6zhjmk5scuz294jmpkw99wwwjzetjgwp4fu4gn6utqgdz87hkqamnq7h</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1sm6zhjmk5scuz294jmpkw99wwwjzetjgwp4fu4gn6utqgdz87hkqamnq7h</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2012-12-04&#xA;📝 Original message:My personal opinion is that the ideal first client has three features:&#xA;&#xA;(1) Starts up and is usable within a couple minutes (even 10 min the first&#xA;time would be okay, to sync block headers)&#xA;(2) Supports Windows, Linux and OSX&#xA;(3) Uses deterministic wallets that can produce a permanent backup&#xA;(preferably paper)&#xA;&#xA;Encryption is a major upside, too, but people new enough to Bitcoin that&#xA;they need such a simple client, can survive without encryption (thye&#39;re not&#xA;going to be holding a ton of coins) -- as long as they are made aware that&#xA;they do not currently have encryption, and the associated risks (and other&#xA;options).&#xA;&#xA;I think it&#39;s extremely important that users have a clear way to backup&#xA;their coins to offline media or paper, in such a way that they don&#39;t ever&#xA;need to worry about it again.  Not only does it give users protection&#xA;against hard-drive loss, it means that they may find it again in the far&#xA;future when they haven&#39;t used Bitcoin in 2 years, and it reminds them that&#xA;they still have coins (and they don&#39;t have to type in 1000 private keys to&#xA;get their coins)&#xA;&#xA;For that reason, I think Multibit is an excellent choice.  I haven&#39;t spent&#xA;much time with it, but I do understand it to  satisfy (1) and (2) clearly,&#xA;and (3) may be happening in the near future (along with encryption).  But I&#xA;do wonder if it has enough staffing behind it to be the center of attention&#xA;(no offense to jim618, but if this becomes the &#34;de-facto&#34; client for new&#xA;users, we should make sure there&#39;s a lot of people available to support it&#xA;-- what if a major security bug is found?  how long would it take the&#xA;current team to identify, fix and test that bug?)&#xA;&#xA;-Alan&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Mike Hearn &lt;mike at plan99.net&gt; wrote:&#xA;&#xA;&gt; At the moment if you visit bitcoin.org then you&#39;re recommended to&#xA;&gt; download the full client. I think we all agree that at some point we&#xA;&gt; need to start presenting users with something more like this:&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; To get started, download wallet apps A or B.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; If you&#39;d like to contribute your computing resources to the Bitcoin&#xA;&gt; network and have a fast computer with an unfiltered internet&#xA;&gt; connection, download:&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;    - for desktop machines, Bitcoin-Qt&#xA;&gt;    - for servers, bitcoind&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Obviously not that exact wording.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; I personally feel it&#39;s a bit early for this, but it&#39;s true that users&#xA;&gt; are being turned away by the fact that they&#39;re pointed to Bitcoin-Qt&#xA;&gt; by default, so having some kind of roadmap or plan for changing that&#xA;&gt; would be good.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; I think MultiBit is maturing into a client that I&#39;d feel comfortable&#xA;&gt; recommending to end users who take the fast-start path, though it&#xA;&gt; still has a few serious lacks (encrypted wallets aren&#39;t released yet,&#xA;&gt; bloom filters will help performance a lot, needs to catch up with some&#xA;&gt; newer features). But there doesn&#39;t have to be a one true client.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; The alternative, I guess, is to make Bitcoin-Qt have an SPV mode. I&#39;m&#xA;&gt; not convinced this is the best use of time, but if somebody steps up&#xA;&gt; to do it, that could also work. MultiBit has some unique features that&#xA;&gt; are quite useful like integrating charting and exchange rate feeds.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; What does everyone think on this?&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------&#xA;&gt; LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial&#xA;&gt; Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support&#xA;&gt; Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services&#xA;&gt; Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers&#xA;&gt; http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d&#xA;&gt; _______________________________________________&#xA;&gt; Bitcoin-development mailing list&#xA;&gt; Bitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.net&#xA;&gt; https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development&#xA;&gt;&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20121204/f76a7294/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>