<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1y22yec0znyzw8qndy5qn5c2wgejkj0k9zsqra7kvrd6cd6896z4qm5taj0</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1y22yec0znyzw8qndy5qn5c2wgejkj0k9zsqra7kvrd6cd6896z4qm5taj0</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2022-12-01&#xA;📝 Original message:There has never been any enforcement of miner preferences.   The convention&#xA;is changing quickly, since miners are squeezed for cash and want to&#xA;capture every nickel, plus there are bounties for full rbf being posted&#xA;every day.&#xA;&#xA;I would suggest considering to continue doing business, as usual, as if&#xA;full rbf is present.&#xA;&#xA;This means:&#xA;&#xA;- managing risk&#xA;- waiting for confirmations if the risk is too high&#xA;- using lightning if possible&#xA;&#xA;No other coin or chain offers a safer way to do business than lightning&#xA;over bitcoin.&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;On Thu, Dec 1, 2022 at 7:32 AM Daniel Lipshitz via bitcoin-dev &lt;&#xA;bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&gt; wrote:&#xA;&#xA;&gt; HI All&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; I am the CEO of GAP600. We guarantee zero confirmed Bitcoin and other&#xA;&gt; crypto  transactions, BTC is a primary part of our business. Our guarantee&#xA;&gt; enables our customers to recognise zero-conf deposits. We reimburse our&#xA;&gt; clients value of the trx should we get it wrong and a transaction we&#xA;&gt; confirmed gets double spent.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Should full RBF become default enabled and significantly adopted this&#xA;&gt; would have a major impact on the capacity to accept zerof confs on mainnet.&#xA;&gt; With the end result being this use case will be forced to move to a&#xA;&gt; different chain, with lightning being just another option.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; I wanted to share some statistics about how significant this use case is.&#xA;&gt; GAP600 clients are primarily payment processors and non custodial&#xA;&gt; liquidity providers; you can see some of our clients on our site&#xA;&gt; www.gap600.com. There are also merchants who have developed their own&#xA;&gt; tools so GAP600 statistics are only a subset of the full use case.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; I do not know of any wallet, exchange or custodian who accepts zero conf&#xA;&gt; without having some sort of solution in place. The market seems to be fully&#xA;&gt; aware of the risks of zero-conf. The opt-RBF seems to be a solution which&#xA;&gt; gives a clear free choice for actors.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Statistics for consideration as a sample of the zero conf use case -&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;    1. As of end of Nov 2022 - GAP600 has processed i.e responded to circa&#xA;&gt;    15M transactions&#xA;&gt;    2. These transactions have a cumulative value of 2.3B USD value.&#xA;&gt;    3. We currently are seeing circa 1.5M transactions queired per month.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; It&#39;s a sizable amount of trxs on mainet and we are by no means the full&#xA;&gt; market of platforms accepting zero-conf.  I realise there are other&#xA;&gt; considerations which BTC has,  I would urge you to take into account the&#xA;&gt; major risk being placed on this significant market share when deciding to&#xA;&gt; make this feature default enabled and encouraging full adoption.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Thank you for your consideration&#xA;&gt; Daniel&#xA;&gt; ________________________________&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Daniel Lipshitz&#xA;&gt; GAP600| www.gap600.com&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; _______________________________________________&#xA;&gt; bitcoin-dev mailing list&#xA;&gt; bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&#xA;&gt; https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev&#xA;&gt;&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20221201/cc56e561/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>