<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1kf0ppcjaguxekg24yx6smgxlu73qn0k8lm0t2wrqc0scpl7u3sgsmf3f58</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1kf0ppcjaguxekg24yx6smgxlu73qn0k8lm0t2wrqc0scpl7u3sgsmf3f58</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-07-22&#xA;📝 Original message:On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Alex Morcos &lt;morcos at gmail.com&gt; wrote:&#xA;&#xA;&gt; Over the last 6 years there may not have been fee pressure, but certainly&#xA;&gt; there was the expectation that it was going to happen.  Look at all the&#xA;&gt; work that has been put into fee estimation, why do that work if the&#xA;&gt; expectation was there would be no fee pressure?&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&#xA;There is a vast difference between what software developers have been&#xA;chattering about in the background versus what the users actually&#xA;experience in the field.&#xA;&#xA;To the user, talk of a fee market is equivalent to talk about block size -&#xA;various opinions are tossed about, but it doesn&#39;t really impact them.  Fees&#xA;have been low for 6 years.&#xA;&#xA;We see this with the actual data - no fee pressure on average for the&#xA;entirety of bitcoin&#39;s history.  We see this with the recent stress tests,&#xA;which exposed dumb wallet behavior WRT fees.   Users -and software- had the&#xA;expectation&#xA;&#xA;Remember, this is not a judgement on whether or not fee market/pressure&#xA;should exist.  It is simply a factual observation that users/market have&#xA;not experienced this new economic policy.&#xA;&#xA;That opens the question - *why now?*   Why make bitcoin growth more&#xA;expensive at this time in its young life?  Many smart people would prefer&#xA;that bitcoin continue to grow, rather than making the system more expensive&#xA;to use right now.&#xA;&#xA;Choosing &#34;let a fee market develop&#34; -- *today* -- is picking economic&#xA;sides, picking winners &amp; losers in the market.&#xA;&#xA;This new policy should be debated and consensus achieved, not simply rolled&#xA;out by fiat without user notification.&#xA;&#xA;Otherwise it is engaging in precisely the economic wizardry that this&#xA;thread opened with decrying.&#xA;&#xA;Just like block size, there are multiple sides to the fee market debate.&#xA;However, Bitcoin Core has (unfortunately) outsized decision making power in&#xA;that simply avoiding progress on block size limit will achieve the &#34;let a&#xA;fee market develop&#34; economic policy change.  Ironic but true - sitting&#xA;around and doing nothing dumps users into a new economic policy.&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150722/bc0495dc/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>