<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1g5zswf6y48f7fy90jf3tlcuwdmjn8znhzaa4vkmtxaeskca8hpss23ms3l</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1g5zswf6y48f7fy90jf3tlcuwdmjn8znhzaa4vkmtxaeskca8hpss23ms3l</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2022-07-09&#xA;📝 Original message:Good morning e, and list,&#xA;&#xA;&gt; Yet you posted several links which made that specific correlation, to which I was responding.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Math cannot prove how much coin is “lost”, and even if it was provable that the amount of coin lost converges to the amount produced, it is of no consequence - for the reasons I’ve already pointed out. The amount of market production has no impact on market price, just as it does not with any other good.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; The reason to object to perpetual issuance is the impact on censorship resistance, not on price.&#xA;&#xA;To clarify about censorship resistance and perpetual issuance (&#34;tail emission&#34;):&#xA;&#xA;* Suppose I have two blockchains, one with a constant block subsidy, and one which *had* a block subsidy but the block subsidy has become negligible or zero.&#xA;* Now consider a censoring miner.&#xA;  * If the miner rejects particular transactions (i.e. &#34;censors&#34;) the miner loses out on the fees of those transactions.&#xA;  * Presumably, the miner does this because it gains other benefits from the censorship, economically equal or better to the earnings lost.&#xA;  * If the blockchain had a block subsidy, then the loss the miner incurs is small relative to the total earnings of each block.&#xA;  * If the blockchain had 0 block subsidy, then the loss the miner incurs is large relative to the total earnings of each block.&#xA;  * Thus, in the latter situation, the external benefit the miner gains from the censorship has to be proportionately larger than in the first situation.&#xA;&#xA;Basically, the block subsidy is a market distortion: the block subsidy erodes the value of held coins to pay for the security of coins being moved.&#xA;But the block subsidy is still issued whether or not coins being moved are censored or not censored.&#xA;Thus, there is no incentive, considering *only* the block subsidy, to not censor coin movements.&#xA;Only per-transaction fees have an incentive to not censor coin movements.&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;Thus, we should instead prepare for a future where the block subsidy *must* be removed, possibly before the existing schedule removes it, in case a majority coalition of miner ever decides to censor particular transactions without community consensus.&#xA;Fortunately forcing the block subsidy to 0 is a softfork and thus easier to deploy.&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;Regards,&#xA;ZmnSCPxj</html></oembed>