<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub17ty4mumkv43w8wtt0xsz2jypck0gvw0j8xrcg6tpea25z2nh7meqf4qgyd</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub17ty4mumkv43w8wtt0xsz2jypck0gvw0j8xrcg6tpea25z2nh7meqf4qgyd</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2014-04-10&#xA;📝 Original message:&gt;&#xA;&gt; 1) There is no catch 22 as there are plenty of ways getting bitcoin&#xA;&gt; without bootstrapping a full node.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&#xA;I think I maybe wasn&#39;t clear. To spend coins you need transaction data.&#xA;Today, the dominant model is that people get that data by scanning the&#xA;block chain. If you can obtain the transaction data without doing that&#xA;then, either:&#xA;&#xA;1) Someone is doing chain scanning for free. See my point about &#34;why pay if&#xA;you can get it for free&#34;.&#xA;&#xA;2) You got your tx data direct from the person you who sent you the funds,&#xA;perhaps via the payment protocol. This would resolve the catch 22 by&#xA;allowing you to spend bitcoins without actually having talked to the P2P&#xA;network first, but we&#39;re a loooooong way from this world.&#xA;&#xA;And that&#39;s it. I don&#39;t think there are any other ways to get the tx data&#xA;you need. Either someone gives it to you in the act of spending, or someone&#xA;else gives it away for free, undermining the charge-for-the-p2p-network&#xA;model.&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20140410/1862e335/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>