<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub12ne8urca5v4quvq4cecs6ejvmjelh5wgjmm4cl8xuc23d9mhqekquza0y4</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub12ne8urca5v4quvq4cecs6ejvmjelh5wgjmm4cl8xuc23d9mhqekquza0y4</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-07-29&#xA;📝 Original message:On July 29, 2015 7:15:49 AM EDT, Mike Hearn via bitcoin-dev:&#xA;&gt;Consider this:  the highest Bitcoin tx fees can possibly go is perhaps&#xA;&gt;a&#xA;&gt;little higher than what our competition charges. Too much higher than&#xA;&gt;that,&#xA;&gt;and people will just say, you know what .... I&#39;ll make a bank transfer.&#xA;&gt;It&#39;s cheaper and not much slower, sometimes no slower at all.&#xA;&#xA;I respectfully disagree with this analysis. The implication is that bitcoin is merely one of a number of payment technologies. It&#39;s much more than that. It&#39;s sound money, censorship resistance, personal control over money, programmable money, and more. Without these attributes it&#39;s merely a really inefficient way to do payments. &#xA;&#xA;Given these advantages, there is no reason to believe the marginal cost of a transaction can&#39;t far surpass that of a PayPal or bank transfer. I personally would pay several multiples of the competitors&#39; fees to continue using bitcoin.&#xA;&#xA;Sure, some marginal use cases will drop off with greater fees, but that&#39;s normal and expected. These will be use cases where the user doesn&#39;t care about bitcoin&#39;s advantages. We must be willing to let these use cases go anyway, because we unfortunately don&#39;t have room on chain for everything anyone might want to do.&#xA;&#xA;Therefore, bitcoin tx fees can go much higher than the competition.&#xA;&#xA;Remember how Satoshi referenced the banking crisis in his early work? The 2008 banking crisis was about a lot of things, but high credit card and paypal fees wasnt one of them. There&#39;s more going on here than just payments. Any speculative economic analysis would do better to include this fact.</html></oembed>