<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1654pkuj4rway0043gcu6rdh4umxescp7ew42d2czqvts3kwvg3esc48xrx</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1654pkuj4rway0043gcu6rdh4umxescp7ew42d2czqvts3kwvg3esc48xrx</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-05-08&#xA;📝 Original message:such a contract is a possibility, but why would big owners give an&#xA;exclusive right to such pools? It seems to me it&#39;d make sense to offer&#xA;those for any miner as long as the get paid a little for it. Especially&#xA;when it&#39;s as simple as offering an incomplete transaction with the&#xA;appropriate SIGHASH flags.&#xA;&#xA;a part of the reason I like this idea is because it will allow stakeholders&#xA;a degree of influence on how large the fees are. At least from the surface,&#xA;it looks like incentives are pretty well matched. They have an incentive to&#xA;not let the fees drop too low so the network continues to be usable and&#xA;they also have an incentive to not raise them too high because it&#39;ll push&#xA;users into using other systems. Also, there&#39;ll be competition between&#xA;stakeholders, which should keep the fees reasonable.&#xA;&#xA;I think this would at least be preferable to the &#34;let the miner decide&#34;&#xA;model.&#xA;&#xA;- Joel&#xA;&#xA;On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Peter Todd &lt;pete at petertodd.org&gt; wrote:&#xA;&#xA;&gt; On Fri, May 08, 2015 at 03:32:00PM +0300, Joel Joonatan Kaartinen wrote:&#xA;&gt; &gt; Matt,&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt; It seems you missed my suggestion about basing the maximum block size on&#xA;&gt; &gt; the bitcoin days destroyed in transactions that are included in the&#xA;&gt; block.&#xA;&gt; &gt; I think it has potential for both scaling as well as keeping up a&#xA;&gt; constant&#xA;&gt; &gt; fee pressure. If tuned properly, it should both stop spamming and&#xA;&gt; increase&#xA;&gt; &gt; block size maximum when there are a lot of real transactions waiting for&#xA;&gt; &gt; inclusion.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; The problem with gating block creation on Bitcoin days destroyed is&#xA;&gt; there&#39;s a strong potential of giving big mining pools an huge advantage,&#xA;&gt; because they can contract with large Bitcoin owners and buy dummy&#xA;&gt; transactions with large numbers of Bitcoin days destroyed on demand&#xA;&gt; whenever they need more days-destroyed to create larger blocks.&#xA;&gt; Similarly, with appropriate SIGHASH flags such contracting can be done&#xA;&gt; by modifying *existing* transactions on demand.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Ultimately bitcoin days destroyed just becomes a very complex version of&#xA;&gt; transaction fees, and it&#39;s already well known that gating blocksize on&#xA;&gt; total transaction fees doesn&#39;t work.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; --&#xA;&gt; &#39;peter&#39;[:-1]@petertodd.org&#xA;&gt; 00000000000000000f53e2d214685abf15b6d62d32453a03b0d472e374e10e94&#xA;&gt;&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150509/50484235/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>