<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1fyh6gqhg8zgyhhywkty047s64z2a7fjr307enrr3kqwtnk64plmsup2mv9</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1fyh6gqhg8zgyhhywkty047s64z2a7fjr307enrr3kqwtnk64plmsup2mv9</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2017-05-09&#xA;📝 Original message:No, changing from 50% to 75% is a hardfork. (75 -&gt; 50 is a softfork). Unless you make it pre-scheduled, or leave a special “backdoor” softfork to change the discount.&#xA;&#xA;And that would certainly reduce the max tx/s with 50% discount, also reduce the incentive to spend witness UTXO. &#xA;&#xA;&gt; On 10 May 2017, at 00:19, Sergio Demian Lerner &lt;sergio.d.lerner at gmail.com&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; Thanks Johnson and Hampus for the clarifications. &#xA;&gt; However, I would rather do the opposite: soft-fork to 50% now, and soft-fork again to 75% discount later if needed, because it doesn&#39;t affect the max transactions/second. &#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; Segwit as it is today should be activated. However if it is not before November, then for the next Segwit attempt I would choose a more conservative 50% discount.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 12:45 PM, Johnson Lau &lt;jl2012 at xbt.hk &lt;mailto:jl2012 at xbt.hk&gt;&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; &gt; On 9 May 2017, at 21:49, Sergio Demian Lerner via bitcoin-dev &lt;bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org &lt;mailto:bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&gt;&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt; So it seems the 75% discount has been chosen with the idea that in the future the current transaction pattern will shift towards multisigs. This is not a bad idea, as it&#39;s the only direction Bitcoin can scale without a HF.&#xA;&gt; &gt; But it&#39;s a bad idea if we end up doing, for example, a 2X blocksize increase HF in the future. In that case it&#39;s much better to use a 50% witness discount, and do not make scaling risky by making the worse case block size 8 Mbytes, when it could have been 2*2.7=5.4 Mbytes.&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; As we could change any parameter in a hardfork, I don’t think this has any relation with the current BIP141 proposal. We could just use 75% in a softfork, and change that to a different value (or completely redefine the definition of weight) with a hardfork later.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; &#xA;&#xA;&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20170510/7cb9f0fc/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>