rich1.0shocknet_justin (npub1xv…e64sa)https://nostr.ae/npub1xvtwx6tduaxnn9v3y7uasskl277achgu0tu2qncmc7hdsz6y2zyqce64sanjumphttps://nostr.ae> There is zero room in a payment network for the kind of error rates and half-assedness of implementations that we see in Lightning products. I agree with this and it's also why I'm out on a limb relative to most lightning devs. The same clowns pushing Bolt12 also push things like mobile nodes, the idea of routing for profit, hold invoices, and other half-baked stupidity. These aren't Bitcoiners for Bitcoin's sake, they're shills for NGO's that control most of the funding, and bandwagon jumping hipsters. > We’ve had a decade of LN development and there is only one thing that is “normie-friendly” and production grade If you watch some of my interviews I specifically go in to why I pivoted back to wallet/node dev from my video site, because Lightning tooling had gotten worse instead of better... for the same reasons described above. > Peer to peer payments networks have to fit all major real world The definitions of peer and real world do a lot of heavy lifting. I assure you that your definition of peer and real world are different than mine. > people on the street want USDT on TRON Lightning or Bitcoin doesn't exist to beat fiat on UX, no one uses Gold for payments either, yet its 10x the market vs. Bitcoin > all you have is a PWA Lightning.Pub is a headless server with an SQL database and an RPC that installs on pretty much any OS in less than a minute. > CLINK is not ready for the real world The reference server hasn't even hit 0.1.0 yet. > you want to convince me to start using this other Lightning thing I don't want to convince you of anything, if you want to use fiat shitcoins for better UX while others go right ahead. The Lingua Franca of 21M will continue to spread fine without you. Anything worth doing is hard. > current leadership I have no leaders, only sheep need a shepherd. Is Lightning full of sheep? Sure is. That leaves plenty of green field for me on the other side of the hill.