<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1fx98zxt3lzspjs5f4msr0fxysx5euucm29ghysryju7vpc9j0jzqtcl2d8</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1fx98zxt3lzspjs5f4msr0fxysx5euucm29ghysryju7vpc9j0jzqtcl2d8</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-06-19&#xA;📝 Original message:On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Mike Hearn &lt;mike at plan99.net&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt;&gt; Or alternatively, fix the reasons why users would have negative&#xA;&gt;&gt; experiences with full blocks&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; It&#39;s impossible, Mark. By definition if Bitcoin does not have sufficient&#xA;&gt; capacity for everyone&#39;s transactions, some users who were using it will be&#xA;&gt; kicked out to make way for the others. Whether that happens in some kind of&#xA;&gt; stable organised way or (as with the current code) a fairly chaotic way&#xA;&gt; doesn&#39;t change the fundamental truth: some users will find their bitcoin&#xA;&gt; savings have become uneconomic to spend.&#xA;&#xA;He doesn&#39;t mean that: he means solving the mempool and crashes and&#xA;hitting the limit would have.&#xA;If the chain has limited size it is a scarce resource and people have&#xA;to bid for it: nothing unexpected or wrong about that.&#xA;Of course, people that believe the limit should be completely removed&#xA;eventually because they don&#39;t care about mining being decentralized&#xA;(or fail to see the relation between the two) may have a very&#xA;different view about this.&#xA;&#xA;On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 12:08 PM, GC &lt;slashdevnull at hotmail.com&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt; Timeframe for transaction fees topping block reward fees =&gt; many years in&#xA;&gt; the future, based on current ratio of block reward to fees.&#xA;&#xA;Do you think that this ratio is unrelated to an abundant (non-scarce)&#xA;block size?&#xA;When is the right time to allow space pressure to rise that ratio?&#xA;When the subsidy is at 1.5625, for example, it may be too late to&#xA;start a non-catastrophic transition from subsidies to fees.&#xA;I don&#39;t claim to know that, but it&#39;s something that worries me.&#xA;No matter how many people say &#34;that&#39;s too far away in the future to&#xA;worry about it&#34;, I still worry about it and I&#39;m sure more people do.&#xA;What if &#34;when it&#39;s time to care about it&#34; we discover that we should&#xA;have started to do things about it long ago to minimize the risks of&#xA;this transition?</html></oembed>