<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1qf6k0f8p0h89d43l0vnx2xp5yrfgjyl8tg3hkg8jtyudrllgw2usdlfn9a</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1qf6k0f8p0h89d43l0vnx2xp5yrfgjyl8tg3hkg8jtyudrllgw2usdlfn9a</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-06-18&#xA;📝 Original message:-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----&#xA;Hash: SHA512&#xA;&#xA;On 2015-06-18 14:53, Jeff Garzik wrote:&#xA;&gt; Consensus changes - worded another way - change Bitcoin&#39;s Constitution &#xA;&gt; -&#xA;&gt; The Rules that everyone in the system is -forced- to follow, or be &#xA;&gt; ignored&#xA;&gt; by the system.&#xA;&#xA;Force is not a helpful or accurate way to describe the situation.&#xA;&#xA;The purpose of Bitcoin to let people trade with each other, and trade &#xA;requires mutual agreement.&#xA;&#xA;If some people choose not to trade under certain terms, they aren&#39;t &#xA;&#34;forcing&#34; anybody to do anything. They are simply refraining from &#xA;proposed interactions. Not granting them the right to do this would &#xA;actually be forcing them to engage in interactions against their will.&#xA;&#xA;It&#39;s an unavoidable reality that Bitcoin&#39;s usefulness is related to the &#xA;size (really: economic output) of the group of people who can be &#xA;convinced that it&#39;s in their best interest to agree on a common trade &#xA;protocol.&#xA;&#xA;Conversations that feature untrue claims about someone forcing someone &#xA;else to do something is the opposite of a viable strategy for growing &#xA;the size of that group.&#xA;&#xA;Arguments about who violated what Bitcoin Core internal governance &#xA;procedures are not interesting to most Bitcoin users, who generally &#xA;don&#39;t know or care who has commit access to the repository.&#xA;&#xA;Getting angry at Gavin and Mike for providing Bitcoin users with an &#xA;alternative which they can freely choose or reject is not helpful in &#xA;persuading users to stay with Bitcoin Core. Making the case why the &#xA;changes in Bitcoin XT are not beneficial to Bitcoin users could be.&#xA;&#xA;For better or for worse, Bitcoin coin users are going to run the &#xA;software they perceive to be in their best interests.  Nobody can stop &#xA;them from making that choice and any effort directed at that end is &#xA;wasted.&#xA;&#xA;It&#39;s more productive to expend effort making sure the current and future &#xA;Bitcoin users are as informed as possible about the long term and short &#xA;term consequences of their choices.&#xA;&#xA;Circling back to the original quote:&#xA;&#xA;On 2015-06-18 14:53, Jeff Garzik wrote:&#xA;&gt; Consensus changes - worded another way - change Bitcoin&#39;s Constitution &#xA;&gt; -&#xA;&gt; The Rules that everyone in the system is -forced- to follow, or be &#xA;&gt; ignored&#xA;&gt; by the system.&#xA;&#xA;Bitcoin does not and can not function as a set of rules imposed by some &#xA;people onto other people. Bitcoin is a negotiation about the best way &#xA;for money to function in the future. The only way we get people to use &#xA;Bitcoin is to convince them that the benefits they gain from agreeing to &#xA;its protocol outweigh the downsides they encounter.&#xA;&#xA;I&#39;m confident that this case can be made successfully but a prerequisite &#xA;to a successful negotiation is recognizing that it is, in fact, a &#xA;negotiation, and that the other parties have full agency and the right &#xA;to walk away if mutual agreement is not reached.&#xA;&#xA;My suggestion is to spend less time talking about procedural violations &#xA;and more time convincing Bitcoin users that Bitcoin Core is the best &#xA;client for them to use, especially if the process of convincing them &#xA;involves making improvements which the users are asking for (or making a &#xA;very compelling case about why the users should reconsider).&#xA;&#xA;-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----&#xA;Version: GnuPG v2&#xA;&#xA;iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVguyLAAoJECpf2nDq2eYjTPgP/A16QGWSWkh50OhSjHx7hdY5&#xA;v0ZqNvfKSm6a94o22yTQF8VZm7NEJJcNY0Vvu1ro95v27Bm37VodGGOXh4ao9gYQ&#xA;ETdzX35OLWUua1e9kfEwgo2Uu2l9AdALOLK5IHyLZdtxJQwUhcdeIhaSMzlZqgEk&#xA;n+gbAZXV7JdnK+oejh5s8zgfOY3MqhZC3TQBVWHWx0K0CE75rm0j4ZShYL2eKOua&#xA;CmWkcEkfeugrnQQv/BB+oe1TAJoHY4bZAr+amYLZMiC8wRcGGeVBOOFykLNd4rSV&#xA;DE+iiGHmgi/wrZjy/xT5kflX55GE8NNVjM2MMNOyD+gWbBn5INahya+DkDWupeQB&#xA;iy71NQQVnB/5U5Yhm/oVUax+Cjj/7001cf1q2rXPcjE+4ntw5ad9oCuRW3kSUpzq&#xA;C0LqEN2lbagrmk/xHSv/GQl+iWulD1mXJl63y3LdXYWno67eVYqzvRK0UB7ZSVww&#xA;3P7p8h2yuvtPtAUDyoOPn7Ghyd1U1lJWGsyffRzd2hWhEYs44cfAv6S2QWIBWbm5&#xA;j8C2ao7m6j2mirRZem+bGrN8idR/fOUIjnwqQmNIObsviMrvgXlHvORjsBcdHoKO&#xA;9Ir8CvqGWftIG5lLCJvjsnP8E3MRToo6pOsD/Ii9223Pn6DxsMvXF+IkZzUJfWDR&#xA;W+t/BYV6XtsAUKI+dAly&#xA;=3KeB&#xA;-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----</html></oembed>